Last post on Dec 08, 2013 at 5:23 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Feb 22, 2013 (4:59 am)
Personally I will not buy a CVT equipped car period. The current Altima has plenty of complaints, even the 2013 Accord has some. They may be fine for lease owners or those who change cars often, I drive them a long time. Same goes for sunroofs. I know far too many people that regret having them. Added noise, leaks and repairs etc.
The current DI four cyl. engines get decent mileage while providing enough power output for the average consumer. My current V6 averages 27 mpg and 25 in winter. The next car must be in the 30's.
#17596 of 20222 Re: CVT [tundradweller1]
Feb 22, 2013 (6:55 am)
Speak on repairs. What goes wrong and cost. Seems still would be cheaper than an AT rebuild, repair, replace.
#17597 of 20222 Re: pirelli? [cski]
Feb 22, 2013 (7:37 am)
REF: 17594 (cski)
If you could start from scratch (i.e., no Kia), what would you buy/lease this month?
#17598 of 20222 Sunroofs on sedans
Feb 22, 2013 (9:19 am)
Same goes for sunroofs. I know far too many people that regret having them. Added noise, leaks and repairs etc.
Different folks, different strokes. Wife and I have bought cars over the years that had these "standard" and we have never used them. The window is closed. The sunshade always closed.
Could never figure out why on very hot 90 degree summer days, I see folks with sunroof shade drawn back, and windows closed and AC apparently on, they have the the hot sun shining on their heads. What the heck is that about?
#17599 of 20222 Re: Sunroofs on sedans [xrunner2]
Feb 22, 2013 (11:06 am)
Sunroofs (or moonroofs) are tinted and normally don't transmit very much heat into the vehicle. Our Edge has the BAMR (big ass moon roof) and we leave the shades open all the time in the summer (Atlanta - mid to high 90s) without any problems whatsoever.
Feb 22, 2013 (11:07 am)
The 2013 Fusion achieved 0.87Gs on Motortrend's skidpad so it's certainly not limited like the other one you mentioned. Given Ford's use of a yaw sensor and steering input I'd be very surprised if there was any limit on lateral acceleration without understeer or oversteer.
#17601 of 20222 Re: Sunroofs on sedans [xrunner2]
Feb 22, 2013 (12:40 pm)
Know what you mean. I also see peole with sun roof wide open, catchiing diesel exhaust, dead animal odor, cold, heat, dust... yecch! Some of us are lucky enough to live in an ideal climate and environment, but not me.
#17602 of 20222 Re: pirelli? [pegasus17]
Feb 22, 2013 (2:15 pm)
Man. That is a loaded question pegasus17.
Money no object? Ok.
1)Honda Accord V6 Touring (has real 6 speed automatic..no CVT) Best build quality, safe, fast, spacious, and has lots of tech goodies. Good sight-lines, and no blind spot. Proven engine. Very nice looking car as well. Made in USA. Did I mention fast?
2) Kia Optima EX/SX/SXL. Best price and value. Has real 6 speed automatic, Both engines good on horsepower, turbo is almost as quick as the Honda. Safe, good build quality, gorgeous in SX and SXL trim, and A+ materials on the interior, making it a nice place to sit in traffic. 3rd year for this model so all issue's have been sorted out. Made in USA.
I spend a lot of time reading, and almost every car magazine still doesn't like the buzzing and whining sound/feel that comes from the CVT trannies. After spending $25,000 to $32,000...I don't want to hear irritating and frankly cheap sounds coming from the engine bay either. The push for fuel economy has netted some great technology, and automakers should be very proud. I just don't want to give up a nice driving automatic for a beehive to save 7 cents a mile. My commute is bad enough.
#17603 of 20222 Re: Sunroofs on sedans [bobad]
Feb 22, 2013 (2:21 pm)
I only own one car with a sunroof/moonroof and I don't get to drive it much anymore (with a son at college). But I liked the sunroof for several reasons:
1) On a cloudy day, it makes the interior brighter.
2) On a day with moderate temps (e.g. 50-80), I can pop the roof up or slide it open and enjoy fresh air (when not driving behind a diesel truck)
3) On a warm but not hot day, I can open it up and use the AC less (roof open plus rear windows cracked gives me nice airflow)
4) When parked on a warm day with no chance of rain, I can pop the roof and let some of hot air out, so it's cooler inside when I return
5) On a cold day, I can open the shade and sunlight warms the car.
6) When I am being pursued by enemy agents, my partner (a gorgeous and highly skilled agent) can stand on the passenger seat and fire at the pursuing cars or helicopters while I drive.
OK... maybe not the last one.