Last post on May 20, 2013 at 8:23 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17580 of 18184 Re: Motorweek comparison test [backy]
Feb 20, 2013 (10:45 am)
Thanks so much for saying that about the Car and driver "0 to $60 an hour" for labor on a new clutch, pressure plate, throw-out bearing...and if it is a fancy dual clutch then another clutch, pressure plate, throw-out bearing......
I posted an average of 3 tests on the V6 Accord. I think 6.1 is repeatable by someone who hasn't won a Motor Sport championship of some sort.
#17581 of 18184 Re: Why not this deal? [backy]
Feb 20, 2013 (10:59 am)
Dude, it's BARELY even leather. The luxury package is another $2500....and includes the dual sunroof, power passenger seat, and the seat heaters. Did I mention the 3 kids?...and the feeding, clothing, and I-Padding of aforementioned kids??
In my previous vehicle, the Jeep GC, the sunroof leaked and the seat heaters broke, only heating my back on high, then dumping water on my head. SWEET!
#17582 of 18184 Re: Honda CVT shudder/hesitation [wayne21]
Feb 20, 2013 (11:02 am)
I have a 2000 Honda Odessey minivan with over 152,000 miles with many miles of towing a 1,500-lb trailer and have had no transmission problems or other problems. I also had a 1983 Chey van with a 4-speed automatic TX which was replaced three times during the same mileage (not to mention two torque converters). I never saw any warning about Chey's TX problems but thousands had to be replaced.
#17583 of 18184 Re: Honda CVT shudder/hesitation [gene84]
Feb 20, 2013 (12:10 pm)
1983? Seriously? GM was crap back then and we all know it. But their automatics are the most reliable currently. The cars themselves are uninspiring Toyota-level vanilla rental fodder, though, so it's a bit like a deal with The Devil. You get immortality but you're stuck being a tree or something equally unappealing.
#17584 of 18184 Re: Honda CVT shudder/hesitation [plekto]
Feb 20, 2013 (1:24 pm)
I agree. We are here to talk about recent model midsize sedans we let the Odyssey go because we were talking about Honda transmissions, but now that is over. Let's get back on topic. There are only a few of us that share, but many people come here and make serious decisions about whether or not to buy a specific new car.
#17585 of 18184 Re: Honda CVT shudder/hesitation [cski]
by kirstie_h HOST
Feb 20, 2013 (3:07 pm)
Good call - thanks for doing my job for free!
#17586 of 18184 Re: pirelli? [pegasus17]
Feb 20, 2013 (3:14 pm)
I replaced my original set of Michelans on my 2009 Fusion SEL V6 about 15,000 miles ago with the Continental Extreme Contact DWS. I was looking for a good All Season Tire that would give me decent traction in the snow and would handle nearly as well as the Michelans. Plus I didn't want to break the bank and to replace the Michelans was going to be $260 mounted, balanced, and tax each. I got the Continentals through my Ford dealer because Ford guarantees they will beat any other local tire price. I spent $690 for the set OTD. I highly recommend these tires. They ride and handle just as well as the Michelans plus are very good in the snow. The Michelans were terrible in the snow since they were considered a summer performance tire.
#17588 of 18184 Re: pirelli? [mtnman1]
Feb 21, 2013 (9:26 am)
How many miles did you get out of your Michelin's? I am hoping to get 25-30k out of my stock tires..... I can't wait to see how much of a difference it will make to go with Michelin Pilot or the Continentals you mentioned. My choice will be depending on price, and after getting more data on real-world wear. Also, my car's stability control can't be completely shut off (but traction control can), so paying for a tire that can handle .96 g of lateral grip on a car whose computer ends the fun at .83 is a waste of $. Pirelli is really my 3rd choice; now that I think about it! $690 is a good deal. Since you have the V6 Fusion SEL, I assume you have 17" tires.....possibly 215/55/17 94-V? That is my size as well.
#17589 of 18184 Re: pirelli? [cski]
Feb 21, 2013 (9:39 am)
so paying for a tire that can handle .96 g of lateral grip on a car whose computer ends the fun at .83 is a waste of $
I thought the computer safety nannies jumped in AFTER any slip is detected. So upgrading the tires should give you more 'play' room.
On my previous RWD car if I hammered it like a maniac it would intervene after a slight chirp and wiggle of the rear end. Similarly it intervened at much lower speeds when it was wet out side...because it detected the tire slip situation.
I think if it were just looking at your g's you'd end up spinning out of control on slippery surfaces.