Last post on May 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17472 of 18209 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [akirby]
Feb 08, 2013 (7:57 pm)
Sorry aren't you confirming what the original poster reported? The to empty display on the car tends to be to the fuel light not to the actual tank being empty. Not saying there isn't something wrong, but it does sound to me that Ford is being cautious of the fuel pump due to issues they have had in the past ( and as many other manufactures are doing as well, see the other replies).
#17473 of 18209 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [scwmcan]
Feb 08, 2013 (9:25 pm)
Ford typically leaves 1.5 - 2 gallons in the tank when it says 0 miles to empty. And I think it's doing the same thing here. When mine is on E and I put in 12 gallons it moves off Full within a mile or two. It's not really getting full.
#17474 of 18209 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [pegasus17]
Feb 09, 2013 (6:20 am)
i would stick with sonata as i feel like i downgraded and paying more money for accord. pretty foolish. optima price is really attractive and if it is similar to sonata, it should be a fine choice also.
#17475 of 18209 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [backy]
Feb 09, 2013 (6:27 am)
fuel economy is about even. i think you made the right decision. hyundai is getting more expensive but it is still much better value compared to honda/toyota.
#17476 of 18209 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [akirby]
Feb 09, 2013 (6:33 am)
Okay thanks for explaining, I would agree in that case there is probably something wrong with the tank, probably with the evaporative recovery system, I think most cars have a flap of some sort to help air bleed out when filling the tank, my guess would be it isn't working ( however the accomplish this).
#17477 of 18209 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [yoonny]
Feb 09, 2013 (10:17 am)
The Sonata was rated Marginal in the new IIHS crash test. Only the Accord of the top sellers was rated Good. By paying more you got that—very high grade steel in selected areas to help save your life, just in case. Marginal on the Sonata is two ratings down from Good.
Also, the Accord has slighter faster acceleration than the Sonata, slightly better mpg, better handling, etc. The Accord also has better rear visibility, and you can roll down the rear windows all the way.
The Accord definitely has some advantages.
The Sonata has some advantages too, including lower price, more interior storage, etc., as you talked about in your very good review.
#17478 of 18209 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [benjaminh]
Feb 09, 2013 (11:01 am)
In the test you mention the driver side curtain did not deploy on the Sonata while it did on the Optima - hmmm. Camry was a real mess in that test. However, I am not inclined to let this one test totally affect my buying decision. I am down to 3-4 choices to evaluate in the next 2 months. Right now, Accord is #1, optima is #2, 2012 Camry is #3 (only because of the killer lease deals available this month; money factor = 0.00001). If the 2014 Sonata gets released by April or May, that will be a player. I .like the looks of the Mazda 6 but i refuse to pay near MSRP for the new toy...
#17479 of 18209 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [pegasus17]
Feb 09, 2013 (3:12 pm)
I think the Optima is a good choice!
I would personally stay away from the Camry, bc not only did it get a Poor rating in that crash test, it also tends to be rated last or close to last in most comparison tests.
The Optima has only one drawback that I can figure out—it has very thick rear pillars, and even people who love the car otherwise (cski?) seem to say that's a bit of a drawback in terms of blind spots. Mirrors can help, of course, but I personally value being able to see all around me if I look back and want to change lanes with 100% confidence.
I do like the style of the Optima. And I think the quality of the Optima is about the same as a Honda at this point—in other words very good. It also seems like a good thing that the Optima is made right here in the USA at KIA's excellent factory in West Point, Georgia.
Trivia fact: KIA originally stood for "Kyungsung Precision Industry."
If I may ask, what's your budget and/or what trim level or options are you considering?
#17480 of 18209 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [yoonny]
Feb 11, 2013 (5:39 am)
Interesting review. The lack of a glove box light in an EX I find harder to accept than a lack of Homelink. I wonder if it is there and the bulb or wiring connection is faulty? They usually only work with the lights on too, so if you are trying this in a dark garage, try turning parking lights on..don't forget to turn them back off of course. Shouldn't have to do that though. I doubt there were that many glovebox doors being left open killing batteries..
#17481 of 18209 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [yoonny]
Feb 11, 2013 (5:43 am)
"Rear seat leg space - The floor bump is much higher than the Sonata's. "
I wonder if the lower hump contributes to the Sonata's poorer crash rating too? The main reason humps have been retained even though they no longer have to make room for a driveshaft, is chassis structural rigidity and crash standards design.