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#17466 of 18220 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [yoonny] by backy

Feb 08, 2013 (10:05 am)

Replying to: yoonny (Feb 08, 2013 9:42 am)
What have you found wrt fuel economy?
 
A big reason I went with the 2013 Sonata GLS vs. an Accord late last year was cost. Hyundai had aggressive lease prices for a loaded GLS (every option including homelink mirror) and gave me a very generous trade in for my 2007 Sonata (beat up, but they have their own body shop so I bet they made out OK on that). All in all I saved $3,000 over 3 years on the lease with the Sonata vs. an Accord LX--assuming the Honda dealer would give me at least as good a deal on my trade as Hyundai.
 
For what my wife uses the car for, she would notice no significant difference drive-wise but does appreciate the extra features on the Sonata such as the heated seats and trick mirror. And I think the Sonata is a better looking car inside and out than the Accord, esp. the LX.
 
If the cars were priced similarly, I would have given the Accord a very close look. But at the pricing available back then, it was no contest.

#17467 of 18220 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? by fury63

Feb 08, 2013 (11:01 am)

So I have around 7K miles on my '13 Fusion Titanium. And while I am very happy with it overall, the one disappointment has been the fuel tank capacity. The specs state a 16.5 gallon tank but I'll be damned if I can get more than 12 gallons in when the fuel warning light comes on (maybe 30 miles to empty?). Ford dealer initially said it's reserve. I've never seen 25% reserve (4+ gallons). I pushed back and they are in discussions with Ford about this but as of yet no conclusion. My last car had an 18 gallon tank so for long trips this becomes a pain having to stop more frequently - especially in the winter where I don't like to push it.
 
Any other '13 Fusion owners out there experience this?
 
I'm wondering if they installed the Hybrid tank - which I believe is 13-14 gallons - by mistake...

#17468 of 18220 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [fury63] by scwmcan

Feb 08, 2013 (11:18 am)

Replying to: fury63 (Feb 08, 2013 11:01 am)
Actually it is quite common to have that large a reserve when the fuel light comes on, my Matrix has a quarter tank left in it for example. I think this is partly due to the in tank pumps, while it is okay to occasionally drive lower than the fuel light, it could affect reliability of the pump if you drive it at the bottom on the tank all the time, I think the manufactures are co erring their behinds and making it so the light comes on very early so they get your attention.

#17469 of 18220 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [fury63] by ivan_99

Feb 08, 2013 (2:26 pm)

Replying to: fury63 (Feb 08, 2013 11:01 am)
I've never seen 25% reserve (4+ gallons).
 
Our 05 Nissan Quest is similar. It's about 21 Gallons and I can drive it below the E-mpty...but still it will only take about 16-17 gallons. I once drove so low I thought I'd run out...over a hundred miles more than I should have...and only put 18 gallons in (the most I've ever put in).
 
I see it as a suggestion...next few days I need to fill up.

#17470 of 18220 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [fury63] by wayne21

Feb 08, 2013 (7:34 pm)

Replying to: fury63 (Feb 08, 2013 11:01 am)
The reason the fuel light comes on so early isn't so much about YOU as it is about the fuel pump. The electric fuel pump is located in the tank and is cooled/lubricated by the gasoline in the tank. The light comes on more as a protective measure for the fuel pump (to keep it cool/lubricated) than for you. The best thing to do is refuel when the light comes on in order to preserve your fuel pump.

#17471 of 18220 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [fury63] by akirby

Feb 08, 2013 (7:51 pm)

Replying to: fury63 (Feb 08, 2013 11:01 am)
There appears to be a problem with some Fusion fuel tanks. One owner had his replaced which solved the problem. Ford engineer took the old one so I'm sure Ford is trying to figure out what happened. Common theory is a problem with the baffles. I've only had one fillup at 20 miles to empty and it only took 12 gallons so something is definitely wrong.

#17472 of 18220 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [akirby] by scwmcan

Feb 08, 2013 (7:57 pm)

Replying to: akirby (Feb 08, 2013 7:51 pm)
Sorry aren't you confirming what the original poster reported? The to empty display on the car tends to be to the fuel light not to the actual tank being empty. Not saying there isn't something wrong, but it does sound to me that Ford is being cautious of the fuel pump due to issues they have had in the past ( and as many other manufactures are doing as well, see the other replies).

#17473 of 18220 Re: 2013 Fusion Fuel Tank Size? [scwmcan] by akirby

Feb 08, 2013 (9:25 pm)

Replying to: scwmcan (Feb 08, 2013 7:57 pm)
Ford typically leaves 1.5 - 2 gallons in the tank when it says 0 miles to empty. And I think it's doing the same thing here. When mine is on E and I put in 12 gallons it moves off Full within a mile or two. It's not really getting full.

#17474 of 18220 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [pegasus17] by yoonny

Feb 09, 2013 (6:20 am)

Replying to: pegasus17 (Feb 08, 2013 9:53 am)
i would stick with sonata as i feel like i downgraded and paying more money for accord. pretty foolish. optima price is really attractive and if it is similar to sonata, it should be a fine choice also.

#17475 of 18220 Re: Owner experience - 13 Accord EX-L vs. 11 Sonata Ltd [backy] by yoonny

Feb 09, 2013 (6:27 am)

Replying to: backy (Feb 08, 2013 10:05 am)
fuel economy is about even. i think you made the right decision. hyundai is getting more expensive but it is still much better value compared to honda/toyota.

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