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#17376 of 18218 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [hill02] by benjaminh

Jan 27, 2013 (6:26 am)

Replying to: hill02 (Jan 26, 2013 11:23 pm)
Also, in terms of the Fusion being American made, that's actually not always the case. I think about half of the Fusions sold here are made in Mexico, and about half are made in Michigan. You'd have to look on the window sticker of the particular car to see where exactly it's made.
 
In other words, an Altima, Passat, Optima, Accord, or Sonata might be more "made in USA" than a Ford Fusion.

#17377 of 18218 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [benjaminh] by akirby

Jan 27, 2013 (7:44 am)

Replying to: benjaminh (Jan 27, 2013 6:26 am)
All Fusions are built in Mexico until later this year when Flat Rock comes online in Michigan.
 
I just bought a 2013 Fusion. This is my 3rd new vehicle and all were new models purchased within the first few months of production. My 06 Fusion was the 2nd one off the truck at the dealer and the only thing I had to do to it over 7.5 years and 60K miles was replace one door handle and change the oil, filter and tires.
 
The quality problems with the 2013 Fusion are assembly errors or parts being out of spec or defective from the supplier. Once corrected those problems won't reappear. For example the major delay last October was due to a headlamp problem where the supplier didn't cure the plastic properly. These problems, like the 1.6L fires, appear almost immediately and are fixed just as quickly.
 
I don't have any long term reliability issues with any of the current crop of midsized sedans. The worst vehicle today is better than the best vehicle 20 years ago.

#17378 of 18218 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [akirby] by gimmestdtranny

Jan 27, 2013 (7:53 am)

Replying to: akirby (Jan 27, 2013 7:44 am)
What was the cause of the 1.6l fires?

#17379 of 18218 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [akirby] by benjaminh

Jan 27, 2013 (8:04 am)

Replying to: akirby (Jan 27, 2013 7:44 am)
Thanks for the info re: where Fusions are made.
 
I agree with what you say in that almost all cars today are way beyond what was available 20 years ago.
 
The Fusion is a great looking car. And many tests say the handling and performance of the Fusion are both very good.
 
I imagine you're probably right about the quality issues. Ford hit a few bumps in the road, but no doubt they are working overtime to fix them.
 
There are a lot of great choices for midsize buyers, and the Fusion is definitely in the mix if the quality issues are mostly resolved at this point.

#17380 of 18218 2014 Mazda6 vs 2013 Honda Accord by romil01

Jan 27, 2013 (8:17 am)

Drove a 2014 Mazda6 Grand Touring today. While the exterior is gorgeous and it drove nicely, the interior is nowhere near as nice as the new Accord. The driver's seat felt hard, whereas the Accord's was really plush. Also, the Accord's center stack is much more modern looking. The nav system in the new 6 is pretty antiquated looking. An Accord EX-L V-6 with Nav is slightly more expensive than the Mazda6 GT 4-cylinder, but it seems to be the higher quality vehicle, and the extra power from the V-6 is nice. Yes the Mazda gets better mileage, but I prefer the power. It's too bad Honda didn't do a little more with the exterior of the Accord. It's not ugly, but it doesn't stand out. The new Mazda6 easily trumps all other midsize sedans in looks, even the new Fusion, the Sonata, and the Optima.

#17381 of 18218 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [ivan_99] by lightfootfl

Jan 27, 2013 (9:40 am)

Replying to: ivan_99 (Jan 25, 2013 8:41 pm)
I can't help but think there might be a ?slight ? exaggeration here....14 hours at 5K ... I just can't figure where, other than a special track where this could possibly be done. If that civic was able to do that even would be pushing credibility some. Allowing for some "writer's license" though, that would really be great.
van

#17382 of 18218 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [lightfootfl] by wayne21

Jan 27, 2013 (9:52 am)

Replying to: lightfootfl (Jan 27, 2013 9:40 am)
I can't help but think there might be a ?slight ? exaggeration here....14 hours at 5K ... I just can't figure where, other than a special track where this could possibly be done. If that civic was able to do that even would be pushing credibility some. Allowing for some "writer's license" though, that would really be great.
 
I, too,chuckled at that until I realized the bridge from San Francisco to Honolulu must now be complete.

#17383 of 18218 Re: 2014 Mazda6 vs 2013 Honda Accord [romil01] by gregg_vw

Jan 27, 2013 (10:47 am)

Replying to: romil01 (Jan 27, 2013 8:17 am)
The Fusion should be about as reliable as any of the other choices. Cars are just like that today.
 
One small gripe about the Fusion...with the longest wheelbase (over 112"), it should have full-size room, like the Accord and Sonata do. The Passat with 2" less wheelbase is cavernous by comparison. The Ford may be high style, but that doesn't explain the lack of interior room. It is not lower or narrower than any of its rivals. Its back seat hardly even trumps the Malibu's, which rides on a wheelbase many inches shorter.

#17384 of 18218 Re: 2014 Mazda6 vs 2013 Honda Accord [romil01] by backy

Jan 27, 2013 (11:11 am)

Replying to: romil01 (Jan 27, 2013 8:17 am)
Personally I prefer the interior esp. the dash of the Mazda6 over the Accord's. The Accord's dash is too over-styled for my taste. I prefer the simpler lines of the Mazda6's dash. It reminds me of the dash of some German luxury cars. Accord's dash... looks like some Japanese engineers were trying too hard. I think the interior styling of the Mazda6 will wear better over time.
 
As for exterior... no comparison there, the Accord looks like any Accord from the past 15 years or so. Not bad, and the Genesis-like rear end is an improvement over last generation. But nothing to heighten the pulse rate like the Mazda6, Fusion, Sonata, and Optima. At least the Accord is less boring outside than the Impala... I mean, Passat!

#17385 of 18218 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [benjaminh] by hill02

Jan 27, 2013 (11:42 am)

Replying to: benjaminh (Jan 27, 2013 4:56 am)
Quality/reliability, safety, styling, and handling. When I first started looking for a new sedan the optima was top on my list until I saw the front grill and price tag in person for all the features I want. I'm open to looking at other vehicles I'm just familiar with Ford and Nissan and both vehicles match my 25,000-30,000 price range.

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