Last post on May 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17354 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [romil01]
Jan 22, 2013 (9:54 am)
Just a word of caution on Mazda's. I had a 2004 Mazda 6 SportWagon (black) w/ the V6. The A/C broke 3 times, the water pump went at 68k, the alternator went at 79k, and the trans died at 120k. It was plagued with emissions related check engine lights, 2 wheels got bent under normal use, and the car had terrible traction when the tires got 1/2 used....resulting in my wife hydroplaning and T/L'd it. Don't even get me started on my brother's Protege. So, we have had quite enough Mazda.
Also, their "we build Mazda's" campaign stating they build "drivers cars" like the CX-5??? It is huge and has only 155HP? Did they forget to add a 100 hp?
My mother in law works for Mazda (for 30 yrs), and she wont even buy one.
#17355 of 18209 Re: new sightings [stickguy]
Jan 22, 2013 (10:29 am)
Well, the size increases of mid size sedans are driven by a couple of factors.
Customers want more legroom, more headroom, more features, more trunk space, etc. At the same time, the government "safety police" keeps forcing manufactures to add more crumple zones, more airbags, thicker structural members and A-C pillars, side impact beams, pedestrian safety systems (because people are too stupid to get out of the way and/or have ear buds shoved in their ears while listening to Van Halen at level 10 while jogging in the street during rush-hour with all-black sweats).......you get the picture
#17356 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [cski]
Jan 22, 2013 (10:38 am)
I'm sure that you could get somebody from every car brand who had a lemon that could give "a word of caution". My experience with Mazda has been the exact opposite of yours. Not one repair that I have had to pay for in 6 years and 95k miles. Two small adjustments...one handled at first oil change and second was a missing screw from a sun visor which they replaced for nothing at 75k miles. They also just installed a new battery in my remote fob for nothing during an oil change. Granted, a lot of this is the dealer but still the car has performed flawlessly. Consumer Reports shows the Mazda6 since 2006 has had a very good repair record.
I have had a couple of lemons from different brands in my life but I avoid giving a brand a bad rap because of my poor luck. If everyone was having similar problems it would be a different story.
#17357 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [m6user]
Jan 22, 2013 (11:56 am)
My two Mazdas were among the most reliable of the 30 or so vehicles I have owned. 2004 was nine model years ago. Manufacturers can move up and down the reliability ratings quite a bit in that amount of time.
#17358 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [cski]
Jan 22, 2013 (12:33 pm)
On the other hand my 2004 Prius has over 210,00 miles and going strong. Water pump went out at 125,00-miles but Toyota paid for it. The brakes will last forever, no major maintenance, no belts, hoses, transmission service required, etc., etc. Local taxi company says they are "bullet proof" you can't "kill them"
#17359 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [gregg_vw]
Jan 23, 2013 (11:20 am)
Hey guys. I am just sharing my experience with Mazda. It was a very, very nice car and I bought it for my wife. It drove great, had 240 HP and every available option.
It let us down a bit. The accidents were the scary part. My brothers 03 Protege hydroplaned the same way as my wife's Mazda 6, and had the same brand and model Bridgstones.(although smaller and skinnier) He hit the brakes during a sudden downpour and slid 1/4 mile trying to regain control and plowed into the jersey wall.
Those experiences plus the breakdowns soured the milk on Mazda for us. Please do not take it personally. I am sure their new Mazda 6 is probably screwed together better than my "Son-optima". Really.
#17360 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [cski]
Jan 23, 2013 (11:38 am)
How is that even remotely a Mazda fault? The tires must have been too worn or the driver was going too fast for conditions.
#17361 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [cski]
Jan 23, 2013 (3:28 pm)
I have no problem with people reporting their direct experiences with any automobile(midsize of course since that is the topic). If one prefaces with saying that they have no idea if this is still the case since they talking about a car from 8 model years ago or that it even remotely relates to other's expereiences with said car. To my knowledge, Mazda has been using Micheilen brand tires for years(at least since 2007) if that even applies since most hydroplaing is a combo of tire tread, conditions and speed. Actually cannot remember the last I hydroplaned in a vehicle and I drive fairly aggressively. Think about it, a quarter mile of hydroplaning is a long distance assuming he had his foot off the gas and tapping the brakes. Sounds to me like someone going way to fast for conditions but I wasn't there so maybe the Bridgestones were particlularly bad rain tires. I don't know.
I have no axe to grind for Mazda but am just trying to give it a fair shake.
#17362 of 18209 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [cski]
Jan 25, 2013 (7:36 pm)
My brothers 03 Protege hydroplaned the same way as my wife's Mazda 6, and had the same brand and model Bridgstones.(although smaller and skinnier) He hit the brakes during a sudden downpour and slid 1/4 mile trying to regain control and plowed into the jersey wall.
Sounds more like a "loose nut behind the wheel", if you catch my drift. My brother also has an 02 Protege approaching 200,000, with no issues other than routine maintenance.
In any event, as many have stated, every brand has had issues over the years. Since you are bringing up a 9 year old Mazda, I can tell you that 9-11 year old Honda's/Acura's had numerous transmission problems. 5 year old Toyota's have had engine sludge problems. 7 yr old VW/Audi's have had electrical problems. See where I cam going with this??
Recent evaluators of Mazda have them near the top in overall reliability. Many new Mazda's have been very, very good. And BTW, I owned a 2005 Mazda6 that was flawless until I traded it for a CX-5, which does have "zoom-zoom" per say even with 155hp. She sips fuel better than any other too....
I drove the new Mazda6. It is quite nice, has good power and the fuel ratings are outstanding. Can't wait to see what is in store when the diesel finally arrives.
Jan 25, 2013 (7:51 pm)
I too respect any diesel effort..but with a caveat..
That being, that with the strict emission minimums and the general political hate of oil burners in America, regs are going to impose a greater price of admission. Sounds fair right? but if SkyActive gas job tech delivers the FE they are claiming in real world, then the diesel is only going to up that anti by about 20%. Mazda..like any others who venture to go there, will just try to camouflage the 3500-4500$ premium by offering the diesel in basically only loaded offerings. In order to recoup the purchase price premium of the diesel, the customer will have to own/drive much more than the average miles per year that Americans drive in order for the 20% fuel savings to offset that price of admission.
This opinion coming from a guy who loves diesels.