Last post on Dec 05, 2013 at 4:17 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17294 of 20193 Re: Altima vs Fusion Hybrid [cski]
Dec 29, 2012 (6:00 pm)
No it is not a big car, it is a compact CUV and weighs about the same as my 2007 Mazda6 and only has one less hp. Nobdody was accusing the Madza6 of being a Porsche but nobody called it underpowered either. Mazda has fixed this problem by putting the 2.5L into the 2014 CX-5 which has 20+ more hp. Every single review I have read on the CX-5 has concluded that it is a "drivers crossover", just not with breakaway, off the line speed. It will get out of it's own way if pushed hard. I've test driven them myself and I was impressed at the ride and cornering ability. Steering was better than my 2013 RDX but I agree that more power would have been nice but certainly not necessary. Show me another CUV in that class that averages 28mpg and gets 26mpg in the city. Those high MPGs don't come free.
From what I read they are being sold about as fast as the dealers get them and they have been out for about 11 months now. That's demand that many competitors would like to have.
#17295 of 20193 Re: I'm stickin'... [cski]
Dec 29, 2012 (6:28 pm)
There were no markings on the rear - just Optima and GDI. It only had 8K miles so not sure about the year. The stereo wasn't that great now that you mention it. We kept it turned down for the most part for conversation purposes.
#17296 of 20193 Re: I'm stickin'... [akirby]
Dec 30, 2012 (4:42 pm)
If it had rims, fogs, and dual exhaust w/no markings but GDI on the trunck it is an LX. The LX has smaller 16" alloys, No dual zone A/C,No leather, no wood trim, no manual mode for the trans, no HID's. MSRP $19,900.
The EX has 17" rims, dual zone A/C, sport-shift trans mode, leather seats, Black Zebrano wood trim, soft touch dash, rubber trunk liner and floor mat set + carpeted summer mats, etc. MSRP $24,250
Basically some of the little touches that make it a little more desirable...and the 17" rubber is nice.
#17297 of 20193 December sales worldwide
Dec 30, 2012 (5:20 pm)
1 Ford Focus
2 Hyundai Elantra
3 Toyota Corolla
4 VW Jetta
5 VW Passat
6 Ford F-Series
7 VW Golf
8 Chevrolet Cruze
9 VW Polo/Vento
10 Ford Fiesta
VW and Ford are doing very well. However, the only mid-size in the top ten is the Passat.
#17298 of 20193 Re: I'm stickin'... [cski]
Dec 30, 2012 (6:01 pm)
There was no dual zone A/C - it was manual control only but it did have manual shift mode for the tranny although I didn't use it. No leather or wood trim. No HIDs.
#17299 of 20193 Re: December sales worldwide [gregg_vw]
Dec 30, 2012 (8:08 pm)
I'll be picking up my Passat SE tomorrow night. From an all-around perspective I just can't find a reason not to buy one. That coupled with the sign and drive and the $1,250.00 incentive currently being offered makes it the best lease deal on the US market right now. I also happen to truly like the car so that helps
#17300 of 20193 Re: December sales worldwide [ajr1775]
Dec 31, 2012 (2:35 am)
please let us know how it goes w/ the Passat. Are you getting the one with the 170 hp I-5? It won a few mid size sedan comparo's just a few months ago.
It's a solid car that's hard to beat and I heard it is very roomy.
Dec 31, 2012 (5:03 pm)
curious to see how Camry sales are going to be over the next few months. With the bad news on crash data I will be interested if consumers even care about crash tests. My prediction is the Honda Accord will move to number 1, the Fusion will be 2, Camry 3, Altima 4, Malbu 5
#17302 of 20193 Re: I will be [cannon3]
Dec 31, 2012 (5:34 pm)
I don't think there is any way that the Fusion can overtake the Camry that quickly.
#17303 of 20193 Re: I will be [cannon3]
Jan 01, 2013 (4:30 pm)
The car is as advertised. Picked it up last night, 2013 Passat SE in Black with Black V-tex interior. Sale price of $24,500.00 including the destination charge. VW had a $1,250.00 lease incentive and that helps to get the lease rate down. Sign and Drive, they make the first months payment. So, my only out of pocket is the tag which I have yet to pay, they'll call me when it's ready and I'll pay then. Monthly payment is $289.00, their first offer was $308.00 per month and of course you never take the first offer. I probably could of nagged a bit more but we were just trying to get the F out of there on New Year's Eve and we had two little ones in tow.
So, no cons to report. What I like about it:
1. Styling is descent; no too eccentric, it's just right for me.
2. Interior is good. The hard plastic surfaces that are there are not as much of an eye soar as they use to be on older VW models. Lots of space on the inside, I hate tight interiors. The V-tex is surprising, they did a very good job with it. Seats are just right, not too cushy and not too hard. The touch screen controls are easy to use. Bluetooth to my Iphone works well, sound quality is good. Cabin insulation is the best I've experienced in a car for this price. Trunk is good; they did a good job on dressing the hinges and the indoor trunk handle for closing the trunk is a novel idea.
3. Ride is great. I don't like touchy brakes and jiggly suspensions. The Passat is just right, good "feedback". You know what your car is doing without being jarred about or being too dampened.
4. Best engine so far on a Passat. I drove a 2004 for some time. The engine is pretty quiet. Acceleration is sufficient. Some people complained of a delay on the acceleration, I have no idea what they're referring to. Braking is good, not too touchy. Breaking distance is not the best according to reviews but I can't comment on that, felt OK to me.
5. Driver's view is excellent. I really like view out of the front and side windows.
So, no cons I can think of. I'll report back later with any I may find. Also, for relevance sake, I test drove a Fusion, Optima, Accord, and Hyundai. Happy hunting folks and I hope you find what you're looking for out there.
My final thought, great value and then some.