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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17292 of 20200 Re: I'm stickin'... [akirby]
Dec 29, 2012 (2:58 pm)
Which Optima trim was it, and what year? I am gonna guess LX or EX. They changed the seat cushions completely for 2012 models....but I have an EX and all I have driven other than that is the turbo SX.
Thanks for the frank answers. I can tell you that I wear the toggle out for the stereo. Also, the FM reception sounds like AM (it's horrible). I immediately installed a Infinity powered sub with a volume knob installed near the fuse kick panel. Sounds great from thumb drive. FM still sounds like S***. Malibu's and Altima's proliferate the rental car market in many areas. Nissan sold 302,000 Altima's here last year. I don't know about the Malibu's sales. I will never buy GM again.
#17293 of 20200 Re: Altima vs Fusion Hybrid [backy]
Dec 29, 2012 (3:01 pm)
I am sorry. Mazda went through all the effort to make the CX-5 a "drivers crossover", then blessed it with only 155HP???? It is a big car!!! WTF?
#17294 of 20200 Re: Altima vs Fusion Hybrid [cski]
Dec 29, 2012 (6:00 pm)
No it is not a big car, it is a compact CUV and weighs about the same as my 2007 Mazda6 and only has one less hp. Nobdody was accusing the Madza6 of being a Porsche but nobody called it underpowered either. Mazda has fixed this problem by putting the 2.5L into the 2014 CX-5 which has 20+ more hp. Every single review I have read on the CX-5 has concluded that it is a "drivers crossover", just not with breakaway, off the line speed. It will get out of it's own way if pushed hard. I've test driven them myself and I was impressed at the ride and cornering ability. Steering was better than my 2013 RDX but I agree that more power would have been nice but certainly not necessary. Show me another CUV in that class that averages 28mpg and gets 26mpg in the city. Those high MPGs don't come free.
From what I read they are being sold about as fast as the dealers get them and they have been out for about 11 months now. That's demand that many competitors would like to have.
#17295 of 20200 Re: I'm stickin'... [cski]
Dec 29, 2012 (6:28 pm)
There were no markings on the rear - just Optima and GDI. It only had 8K miles so not sure about the year. The stereo wasn't that great now that you mention it. We kept it turned down for the most part for conversation purposes.
#17296 of 20200 Re: I'm stickin'... [akirby]
Dec 30, 2012 (4:42 pm)
If it had rims, fogs, and dual exhaust w/no markings but GDI on the trunck it is an LX. The LX has smaller 16" alloys, No dual zone A/C,No leather, no wood trim, no manual mode for the trans, no HID's. MSRP $19,900.
The EX has 17" rims, dual zone A/C, sport-shift trans mode, leather seats, Black Zebrano wood trim, soft touch dash, rubber trunk liner and floor mat set + carpeted summer mats, etc. MSRP $24,250
Basically some of the little touches that make it a little more desirable...and the 17" rubber is nice.
#17297 of 20200 December sales worldwide
Dec 30, 2012 (5:20 pm)
1 Ford Focus
2 Hyundai Elantra
3 Toyota Corolla
4 VW Jetta
5 VW Passat
6 Ford F-Series
7 VW Golf
8 Chevrolet Cruze
9 VW Polo/Vento
10 Ford Fiesta
VW and Ford are doing very well. However, the only mid-size in the top ten is the Passat.
#17298 of 20200 Re: I'm stickin'... [cski]
Dec 30, 2012 (6:01 pm)
There was no dual zone A/C - it was manual control only but it did have manual shift mode for the tranny although I didn't use it. No leather or wood trim. No HIDs.
#17299 of 20200 Re: December sales worldwide [gregg_vw]
Dec 30, 2012 (8:08 pm)
I'll be picking up my Passat SE tomorrow night. From an all-around perspective I just can't find a reason not to buy one. That coupled with the sign and drive and the $1,250.00 incentive currently being offered makes it the best lease deal on the US market right now. I also happen to truly like the car so that helps
#17300 of 20200 Re: December sales worldwide [ajr1775]
Dec 31, 2012 (2:35 am)
please let us know how it goes w/ the Passat. Are you getting the one with the 170 hp I-5? It won a few mid size sedan comparo's just a few months ago.
It's a solid car that's hard to beat and I heard it is very roomy.
Dec 31, 2012 (5:03 pm)
curious to see how Camry sales are going to be over the next few months. With the bad news on crash data I will be interested if consumers even care about crash tests. My prediction is the Honda Accord will move to number 1, the Fusion will be 2, Camry 3, Altima 4, Malbu 5