Last post on May 24, 2013 at 7:58 AM
You are in the Sedans
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17260 of 18220 Re: Crash test's and whatnot..... [benjaminh]
Dec 20, 2012 (7:38 am)
Totally agree. I hate the blind spots on my Optima. There is only so long you can look behind you too; on a crowded highway going to work at 6am in the dark.
The new Accord offers a blind spot camera on ALL models. I suspect this safety feature will become standard on almost all vehicle's by the end of 2014. Honda really did a great job on the new Accord. It is really good looking, swift and solidly built. I think they build it out of "lightweightium" or something (as described in a new magazine article).
I wish I had the camera and a passenger seat with a height adjustment as standard equipment. I would certainly want that over power folding mirrors.
Oh, and all the buttons on my rear view mirror are totally undecipherable and pretty useless when living in a condo/apt/townhouse/etc.
As buttons go; nothing is worse than the dash on my mother-in-laws 2010 Nissan Quest. It has like 2000 buttons, all with (ancient Egyptian inspired??) picto-grams.
What does the snake and the cat-headed warrior button do? Anyone?
#17261 of 18220 Re: Crash test's and whatnot..... [cski]
Dec 20, 2012 (8:32 am)
I hope KIA and others follow Honda's lead and design cars with thinner pillars made of high grade steel, and also adopt the camera stuff.
In terms of the Optima doing better than the Sonata in the crash test, I have a possible guess on that. As you know, for many years KIA and Hyundai were separate, competing companies. When KIA suffered a sudden financial crisis of some kind (which I don't understand or know about) the Korean gov't pressured Hyundai into buying KIA so that it wouldn't go under. But they are, to a significant degree, still separate companies.
In other words, although KIA adopted the basic Hyundai Sonata engineering in developing the Sonata platform, it's possible that KIA engineers decided to strengthen the structure at a few key points. I don't know if that's what happened, but my guess is that it's possible. Look at that article about how some car companies suddenly upgraded some components on their cars for this test in just a few months. Maybe KIA did that too, long before the test?
It could also be just the random variations of the test....
#17262 of 18220 New crash test
Dec 20, 2012 (8:54 am)
Does anyone know yet how the 2013 fusion did? I see on my daughters new fusion it has air bags in the knee area?
#17263 of 18220 Camry.....and the end of the world
Dec 20, 2012 (9:03 am)
Have you guys noticed that no one is really talking about the Camry much? As in "I want one"?
Toyota blew it on the interior. How did the ES/GS 350 get so cool looking and the Camry so lame? The dash/interiors of the Lexus models look high grade, user friendly, and modern...while the Camry gets aluminum painted plastic all over. Barely acceptable.
and....did you guys know that almost every vehicle Toyota makes (except trucks) is riding on some form of Camry platform? Like 6 vehicles.
Oh, it is supposed to be the end of the world tomorrow. Should we send a Camry as an offering to that cool Aztec temple? I think Toyota can spare one.
#17264 of 18220 Fusion's at local dealer.....
Dec 20, 2012 (9:11 am)
I swear this is my last post today. Going a little nuts bottled up in my cube.
I went to a local Ford dealer about a week ago and drove through their lot. They had 3 Fusions, all 1.6 turbos. They were hidden all the way at the back of their massive new cars lot.
I mean, there were tons of Focus, Escapes and other vehicles. So, I can only guess as to the scope of Ford's issues or plan is for the Fusion. I still see virtually zero of them around my area; and I drive around a lot.
#17265 of 18220 Re: Fusion's at local dealer..... [cski]
Dec 20, 2012 (9:19 am)
The 1.6L Fusions were probably waiting for the new software to fix the cooling issue - that's why they were in the back.
They are shipping a lot of Fusions finally but they're also selling them just as fast as they get them.
#17266 of 18220 Re: Crash test's and whatnot..... [benjaminh]
Dec 20, 2012 (10:36 am)
The Sonata and Optima share many components including powertrains, but the front ends are significantly different. That alone could account for the difference in crash scores. It doesn't take much to get a bump in the scores... witness the ability to make small running changes to a design to move up a level. Will be interesting to see if Hyundai does that with the Sonata, which is due for a mid-gen refresh anyway for 2014 MY. They've done it before in recent years, e.g. made a running change to the previous-gen Elantra to get a Good on the IIHS side impact test.
Dec 20, 2012 (4:07 pm)
-- Honda Accord, four-door
-- Suzuki Kizashi
I still love the Suzuki Kizashi Sport. I am a steadfast Mitsubishi fan now, though, but someone could get a great deal on a Kizashi. I truly think it's a great midsize car.
Incidentally, I didn't notice the Mitsubishi Galant in the list above. Who has a reasonable explanation for this? Talkin' about the IIHS safety ratings above, there.
#17268 of 18220 Re: Aye ta go Suzuki... [iluvmysephia1]
Dec 20, 2012 (4:11 pm)
I think they stopped making the Galant. That would probably be a good reason.
#17269 of 18220 Re: Aye ta go Suzuki... [iluvmysephia1]
Dec 20, 2012 (5:56 pm)
Mitsubishi and Suzuki?
Do you collect stray kittens too?