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#17110 of 18225 Re: Oh no... [igozoomzoom]
by ivan_99
Nov 08, 2012 (8:47 am)
All of the ones that I've ever seen (in GA, AL and TN), were office trailers parked on an existing parking lot
To be honest...this was the first Suzuki dealer I seen...or ever noticed. It isn't huge, but at the time I thought it must be Suzuki trying to make a push.
I suppose the push turned into a final gasp pretty quickly...
#17111 of 18225 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [cski]
by ivan_99
Nov 08, 2012 (8:50 am)
Make mine a 2.0 EcoBoost Titanium. Beautiful car inside and out.
Don't all Titanium models only come with a black interior?
Unless there is a large amount of brushed aluminum to go along with an all black interior...I just don't like it.
Many manufacturers do this on their 'sporty' models.
#17112 of 18225 Re: Hybrid, or not? [backy]
by cski
Nov 08, 2012 (9:02 am)
I bought the 2012 Optima EX (non-hybrid) after reading all the reviews and driving two of it's competitors. It just blows them away for the money.
I get 22-24 mpg in dense suburban and city driving. Pretty good numbers for my heavy foot. Also, the 2.4 sounds really sporty and refined too. It's dual exhaust just sings, and the manual shift mode is satisfying for downshifts while decelerating to a stop instead of being hard on the brakes. The brakes are excellent though.
All of the reviews I read on the Son-Optima Hybrid said it was "unrefined and clunky". There are just too many more clutches and moving parts spinning for my money and driving style. I have seen the Optima hybrid on the road..nice looking.
#17113 of 18225 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [ivan_99]
by cski
Nov 08, 2012 (9:25 am)
I don't know for sure about only black interior on Titanium, or if there are real aluminum dash pieces, but C/D says "metal trim accents abound".
I do know I like the way newer Ford dashes look, especially with the reconfigurable TFT gauge cluster display and center touch screen. It looks more expensive than mine....but not 10k better!!!
BTW, my Optima has real aluminum trim at $24,260 EX. Also has some fake Black-Zebrano wood accents that are very tasteful.
#17114 of 18225 Re: Oh no... [igozoomzoom]
by cski
Nov 08, 2012 (9:43 am)
HAHAHAHAHA LMAOOOOOOO
The original Samurai was very very popular in it's hey-day. It was a cheap alternative to a "real" Jeep, you could take the top off and cruise. On my honeymoon in Aruba/Caribbean they were everywhere. (1999).
I recall lots of girls in the pink and black model. Then there was the XL-7, Sidekick, XC-90 "cute Ute".
I am just gonna shut up now. They were all horrible sh#
box's.
#17115 of 18225 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [albanytim]
by sdcal2
Nov 08, 2012 (10:11 am)
I admit this is some part speculation and some what people who you would think should know have told me. When you go to Ford.com go to Fusions and then to Search Dealer Inventory by Zip Code. I admit I have only done this for Southern California. What I have found are the same couple units at all dealers that they have had for a few weeks and all others "In Stock" say "Dealer Ordered". One dealer took the one they had on display and told me they put it in the back but would not give a reason but 2 weeks later that's where it still sits. My dealer has had the exact same two units that are "Available" for 3 weeks now on the list. I can't believe they simply can't find anyone to buy these units but their list of "Dealer Ordered" has doubled and in some cases Tripled. I am not sure if Ford has begun production of the Fusion out of the Flat Rock plant (Thought 2014) but all units I have looked at are coming out of Hermosillo Mexico Plant. When you click on the Monroney sticker you can see the plant and manufacture date. All dates on units that dealers have are old (August). Units are usually delivered to California dealers 10 to 14 days after manufacturing. I would love to know differently as it seems I would be better off just buying a unit off of a local dealers showroom floor as opposed to waiting two additional months. Also, if this was not the case why not just reorder as they claim delivery time is 6 to 8 weeks and forget about a car that might have an issue and has been freighted all over.
Would love for someone who really knows what's going on to post here but everything is hush hush that I can find nothing.
#17116 of 18225 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [sdcal2]
by akirby
Nov 08, 2012 (11:00 am)
Latest rumor is a parts shortage so some vehicles are being built without those parts and shipped to Flat Rock to have those parts added (headlights, headliners were mentioned). Flat Rock is not online yet so this is a perfect situation to handle this type of problem. The memo I saw indicated the shortage was over and only affected about 100 retail (sold) orders - the rest were dealer stock. I think we'll know a lot more once it's over.
#17117 of 18225 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [cski]
by albanytim
Nov 08, 2012 (1:28 pm)
I just "built" a Fusion Titanium on Ford's site and I can confirm that no matter what exterior color I chose, the interior is Charcoal Black.
#17118 of 18225 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [albanytim]
by akirby
Nov 08, 2012 (1:30 pm)
Yes, all Titaniums have black interiors with silver accents. No choice.
#17119 of 18225 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [akirby]
by gregg_vw
Nov 08, 2012 (7:31 pm)
Hate all-black interiors. Will never buy another.