Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17103 of 20239 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [sdcal2]
Nov 07, 2012 (9:27 am)
All cars are not affected - only some. And there isn't much information as to what actually happened. It was either a line problem or a part problem that appears to have been fixed already. There was no stop sale or recall on vehicles already produced. I think they're shipping them to Flat Rock for inspection and repair so they don't slow down the plant. Ford is probably using an abundance of caution with the Fusion launch after the issues they had with the Focus and Escape launches. Nothing to worry too much about yet.
#17104 of 20239 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [akirby]
Nov 07, 2012 (9:58 am)
There are NO more Fusions being shipped to dealers period. Many dealers that have units have removed them from showroom floor. My unit was ordered in August and built in October and is still sitting in Mexico. Per Ford now expect delivery before end of December. All units will be shipped to Flat Rock for inspection and then shipped out to dealers. I will bet there will be a recall on units already sold soon
I would say they have plenty to worry about
#17105 of 20239 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [sdcal2]
Nov 07, 2012 (4:52 pm)
Source? That doesn't match what I've been reading.
#17106 of 20239 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [akirby]
Nov 07, 2012 (8:38 pm)
I have the same question for sdcal2... what is your source that Ford stopped shipping Fusions? According to my local dealers' websites, they are getting more almost every day. Unfortunately they are almost all the 2.5 and 1.6. I am waiting to test drive the 2.0 and the hybrid.
#17107 of 20239 Re: Oh no... [ivan_99]
Nov 08, 2012 (3:38 am)
"Locally...a couple years ago we had a new Suzuki dealership built close to our house. Within a year they went out of business and the facility has been on the market ever since."
Built??? That isn't a word I've ever associated with a Suzuki dealership. All of the ones that I've ever seen (in GA, AL and TN), were office trailers parked on an existing parking lot (old, cracked asphalt usually) or even on gravel lot! Nothing says class like buying a car out of a trailer on an unpaved lot!
With such high-end dealer facilities, selling far more rebadged Daewoos than vehicles they engineered and built AND spending less on marketing than the local Tasty Freeze....what went wrong with such a solid business plan???
Nov 08, 2012 (4:08 am)
"I bet those Kizashis can be had now for a heckofadeal.
I wonder how long it will be before Mitsubishi follows suit... most of their models have been retired, including the Galant, which at one time was considered one of the top cars in its class."
I've been wondering the same thing about the Kizashis! The Kizashi is a damn good car even after several years on the market. It is easily the best car that Suzuki has ever made, but sales have never hit 7,000 in any year since it was introduced. It's a shame.
I wonder just how low prices will go during the sell-off? My bet is that the majority of the remaining inventory will be dumped into rental fleets. Enterprise and several smaller rental car companies bought Saturns and Pontiacs by the thousands when they were going out of business.
There are still some former Saab dealers trying to get rid of new 2011 models. Some can be had for as much as 50% off sticker (especially the 9-5), but they don't have a warranty and aren't considered new. Most banks won't loan on them and insurance rates for Physical Damage (Comprehensive & Collision, which pay to repair the car) have increased significantly!
I fear the same will happen with the insurance rates for Suzukis, especially the lowest volume models....well, that's all of them actually.
I feel so sorry for anyone who has bought a new Suzuki in the last year or two and financed it for 60 or 72 months! Imagine how bad it would suck to owe $20k on a car only worth $12k! If they were smart enough to get GAP coverage, it wouldn't surprise me to see an increase in "total loss" single car crashes! I can hear it now, "That brick on the accelerator was sitting in the seat before the crash, it must have fell down there during the impact....yeah, that's it..."
#17109 of 20239 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [backy]
Nov 08, 2012 (7:44 am)
In the November C/D comparo the 2013 Ford Fusion 1.6 Eco-Boost check engine light was activated a few times during testing. Not good. C/D also noted that the engine and tranny had to work hard due to peaky power delivery (smaller displacement).
There are three engine choices for us here in the USA:
1.6 EcoBoost (turbo) (made in UK)
2.5 inline 4 (non-turbo) (made in Mexico)
2.0 EcoBoost ( turbo) (made in Spain)
I believe the check engine issues re just early production birthing hiccups. In other words; I would wait for a 2014 model that has all the bugs worked out. Make mine a 2.0 EcoBoost Titanium. Beautiful car inside and out.
#17110 of 20239 Re: Oh no... [igozoomzoom]
Nov 08, 2012 (7:47 am)
All of the ones that I've ever seen (in GA, AL and TN), were office trailers parked on an existing parking lot
To be honest...this was the first Suzuki dealer I seen...or ever noticed. It isn't huge, but at the time I thought it must be Suzuki trying to make a push.
I suppose the push turned into a final gasp pretty quickly...
#17111 of 20239 Re: Concerning the new 2013 Ford Fusion... [cski]
Nov 08, 2012 (7:50 am)
Make mine a 2.0 EcoBoost Titanium. Beautiful car inside and out.
Don't all Titanium models only come with a black interior?
Unless there is a large amount of brushed aluminum to go along with an all black interior...I just don't like it.
Many manufacturers do this on their 'sporty' models.
#17112 of 20239 Re: Hybrid, or not? [backy]
Nov 08, 2012 (8:02 am)
I bought the 2012 Optima EX (non-hybrid) after reading all the reviews and driving two of it's competitors. It just blows them away for the money.
I get 22-24 mpg in dense suburban and city driving. Pretty good numbers for my heavy foot. Also, the 2.4 sounds really sporty and refined too. It's dual exhaust just sings, and the manual shift mode is satisfying for downshifts while decelerating to a stop instead of being hard on the brakes. The brakes are excellent though.
All of the reviews I read on the Son-Optima Hybrid said it was "unrefined and clunky". There are just too many more clutches and moving parts spinning for my money and driving style. I have seen the Optima hybrid on the road..nice looking.