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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17014 of 20200 Re: Having read all these since I last praised... [cski]
Oct 23, 2012 (5:46 pm)
The Mazda6 is the next new one out of the gate and should be at dealers very early in 2013. The Kizashi is old news that never caught on. The Suzuki dealer right next to my Mazda dealer closed up about a year after the Kizashi came out. They needed a conventional transmission and a V6 or turbo 4. They were touting it as a cheap alternative to an Audi but it didn't have the HP to really compete in that sports arena. Suzuki will probably slip quietly away into the night(from the USA) much like Izuzu did. My understanding is that they do well in Japan and the rest of Asia but just can't seem to make great inroads in the US and I think Europe as well. I don't even hear that much about their motorcycles much anymore. I know their boat motorss are that desired either.
#17015 of 20200 Re: Having read all these since I last praised... [m6user]
Oct 24, 2012 (6:57 am)
The Kizashi has very few fans but some of them are quite loyal. Most of them would be impressed if they drove the 2013 competitive models, and could see where the Kizashi needs updating. I like the size of the Kizashi, but it has fallen behind on styling, equipment, power choices, and quietness.
The 2014 Mazda6, out in January, looks to be a winner.
#17016 of 20200 Re: Having read all these since I last praised... [m6user]
Oct 24, 2012 (11:36 am)
I was being polite. If you read between the lines I said this about the Kizashi:
A) It needed updating badly. (boring)
B) Their heart isn't in it. (boring)
C) They nibbled some market share from the big boys as an alternative too many. (boring)
D) Didn't Suzuki make crappy little 4x4's (Samurai) that enjoyed a cult following? Why don't they do that again?
#17017 of 20200 Test Drove 2013 Accord LX
Oct 24, 2012 (1:09 pm)
For full disclosure - my car history has been:
1996 Accord: My first car. Cramped for my 6'4" frame, and not particularly peppy (130hp) but it had a personality. I miss that car.
2006 Accord: Great to drive. Had some road noise, felt more powerful than it was.
Currently have a 2009 Sonata GLS V6: Quiet, smooth riding, lots of power with good MPG (averaging 29-30mpg on my highway commute), absolutely no fun to drive around a bend.
The 2013 Accord was still disapppointingly noisy compared to my quiet Hyundai. I'm not sure I could go back to that level of road noise every day after commuting 100 miles a day in my quiet coffin of a car, the Sonata. However, the engine felt good under my foot, but made a noise that was not pleasant like previous Honda fours. Part of DI, I suppose.
The CVT didn't feel that different from an automatic. It had obvious "shift" points. When I gunned it to merge, it had definite "shifts" in ratio. Frankly, I liked the feel of the 2012 Altima I drove, and how it smoothly ramped up the revs, and dropped them back. The Accord didn't feel as "rubber-bandy" I suppose, but it wasn't nearly as smooth as the Altima was, either. Overall, not a deal maker or breaker for me. It was good enough.
The interior had loads of space. My Sonata is a "Large Car" by EPA standards, with a moonroof, and the Accord felt at least as spacious. No problems there. My seat in my Hyundai offered more travel/front legroom for me, but not by much. The Honda offered comfy seating and rear vents, a nice touch.
In the end, these were the items I focused on; powertrain, space, and noise levels. While the Honda was definitely more spry than my current Sonata, nothing about it made me pine for a new car right now. I'm content with what I have (and no car payment).
#17018 of 20200 The Suzuki Kizashi has fallen behind that...
Oct 24, 2012 (2:01 pm)
badly...already? Huh? No way! I don't even have to re-test drive the car to know that it hasn't. Oh well, if nobody buys one that will mean all the more Kizashi's left for me. Mine-mine-mine!
Hurry...catch a glimpse of it before it becomes a little red X
Look at that car, gentlemen. Simply the coolest midsize car on the market. And it is the smallest midsize car as well. This car looks mah-vel-ous in silver. Best color for the Kizashi.
#17019 of 20200 Re: Having read all these since I last praised... [cski]
Oct 24, 2012 (2:24 pm)
I got your message but was just adding to it. However, don't really equate boring with needing an update or their heart isn't in it. Suzuki is huge in Japan and Asia, one of the best selling brands there. They just can't figure out the US market very well.
#17020 of 20200 Re: The Suzuki Kizashi has fallen behind that... [iluvmysephia1]
Oct 24, 2012 (2:25 pm)
What happended to the red one you were gaga over about a year or so ago?
#17021 of 20200 Re: The Suzuki Kizashi has fallen behind that... [iluvmysephia1]
Oct 24, 2012 (2:25 pm)
The front end looks like a hillbilly on nitrous oxide.
Oct 24, 2012 (3:02 pm)
#17023 of 20200 Re: Test Drove 2013 Accord LX [thegraduate]
Oct 25, 2012 (11:11 pm)
I heard no mention of the new "Fusion". I drove the 2013 accord and Fusion and the Fusion is much more quiet and better sounding engine (1.6L ecoboost). Accord has better ergonomics though.