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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16881 of 20239 Re: 2013 Fusion [akirby]
Sep 15, 2012 (1:09 pm)
2013 Fusion is gonna be HOT. There has not been much TV press on it so Ford can sell the remaining outgoing model. I would like the 2.0 Eco Boost (Turbo) 240HP model.
I already love the nod to Aston Martin with the grill design(even though Ford sold it's interest in Aston a couple years ago). I can't wait to start seeing them on the road.
I wonder how smooth the start/stop system on the 1.6 is in heavy traffic. Will it be smooth enough?
#16882 of 20239 Re: Ben on pillar sizer and strength.. [cski]
Sep 15, 2012 (1:09 pm)
Why not just adjust your mirrors properly and then you won't have a blindspot.
#16883 of 20239 Re: Ben on pillar sizer and strength.. [cski]
Sep 15, 2012 (1:15 pm)
I know what you mean. I feel the same way about passing in my Mazda5, which is one of the main reasons I'm thinking of trading it in on a new Accord. I carefully use my mirrors in the Mazda5, and my neck is on a swivel looking around like you said. I do it and it works, but my driving enjoyment is definitely a lot lower in the Mazda5 in that situation than in our Accord. And otherwise, like with your Optima, it's a fun car to drive and I like it. But since I'm someone who likes driving most of the time, I really want both of our cars to be in that camp of fun to drive pretty much all the time....
#16884 of 20239 Adjusting out my blind spot....
Sep 15, 2012 (4:25 pm)
Maybe I should bolt on those giant mirrors from an old F350 dually.
My car will look like dumbo... but then I can finally adjust out that blind spot.....or take flight....lol.
#16886 of 20239 2013 Fusion Premium Gas?
Sep 17, 2012 (7:31 am)
I have seen on many sites that the 2.0L Ecoboost will require premium gas. Is this car really going to require premium gas and only make 237hp? I know torque matters more and that engine does look like its has a good torque band, but this car should get 250hp at-least with premium.
Sep 17, 2012 (8:46 am)
I just went to the Ford site and took a good look.
Really, really nice looking car, good spec's, nice interior. Great selection of power-train's as well, although I think there may be one too many, made necessary by the EPA.
Why would I want the 1.6? On roads around here I would be on the turbo a lot, and a mid-size Fusion, not to mention the Escape, is a LOT of car to get moving with such a small engine.
Can anyone tell me why all three are offered in the states? Wouldn't it be better to just offer the 2.5 and the 2.0T and not have a third engine to worry about?
Maybe it would be better to offer the 1.6T and the 2.0T and ditch the 2.5?
#16889 of 20239 Re: Fusion [cski]
Sep 17, 2012 (9:24 am)
Because the 1.6L has optional start/stop capability and it yields significantly better EPA ratings (26/37) than the 2.0L (22/33). I'm guessing on those numbers but they're close.
The 2.5L is a boat anchor and is basically just there for fleet sales and to take some of the volume pressure off the new EB engines.
In Europe the new Mondeo (same as the 2013 Fusion) gets the 1.0L EB so that makes the 1.6L sporty by comparison.
If they offered the 1.6L auto start/stop in Titanium trim I'd probably be ordering one.
#16890 of 20239 Fusion "Boat Anchor" trim. Lol.
Sep 17, 2012 (11:39 am)
Yes, I remember the old GM 2.5 pig "iron duke" workhorse from the 80's.
Boat Anchor. Hahaha. Oh, BTW I adopted your mirror settings. Will let you know how that goes. Made sense to me.
Back on topic. Yes, I am aware that in Europe a 1.6 is considered a nice size 4 cyl. 1.4 liters are common as well, and I am aware of the 1.4 turbo in Chevy's Cruse. (138hp).
I have to mention that my 2.4 GDI puts out 25 more horses and 11 more lb ft than Ford's 2.5, is rated at 35mpg (I observe 24 real life mixed) and sounds great doing it. I test drove the outgoing Fusion model prior to purchasing my Kia. The 2.5 was rough over 3500.
With the A/C on (at 99 to 103 degrees for a month solid) my Optima was still really sluggish off the line. This is why I asked about the 1.6 in the Fusion. It just seems needlessly expensive and complex that for only a 3 hp gain.
I know that you know your stuff Kirby. Just a counter point.