Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16875 of 20239 Re: 2013 Accord [benjaminh]
Sep 14, 2012 (9:36 am)
But even in 6th with the manual you'd be running at maybe 2400 rpm.
Not if Honda designed the Accord's 6MT for fuel efficiency. For example, on a Mazda3 Skyactiv 6MT I tested, it was turning at only ~2000 rpm 65 mph in 6th. And it's a smaller, lower-power engine than the Accord has, so I expect the Accord would do better... if 6th is truly an overdrive on the Accord.
If the Accord's MT really does rev that high, then yeah, no way I'd go with that, would have to get the CVT. That's the problem I have with the new Impreza--MT is way too noisy/high revving compared to the CVT. But it's only a 5MT.
#16876 of 20239 Re: 2013 Accord [benjaminh]
Sep 14, 2012 (10:04 am)
My Prelude is LOADS of fun to drive. It was featured here on inside line's Readers Rides segment a few months back. I bought it brand new as a leftover on 4/27/02. It was my daily driver for the 1st 9 years of its life. I only drive it on beautiful, sunny, days & it still brings a smile to my face. Current mileage is over 147,000.
#16877 of 20239 Re: 2013 Accord [nyccarguy]
Sep 14, 2012 (10:39 am)
nycarguy: I didn't even know about the Readers Rides section. Thanks. Found your page. That is a very nice 'lude!
One of my first Honda memories is from 1979. I was a freshman in hs, and a senior I knew with some money had a Prelude of that year and we went for a ride. Wow. Tiny, but the precision of the engineering floored me. At that moment I realized that Hondas could be something special...
#16878 of 20239 Re: 2013 Accord [backy]
Sep 14, 2012 (10:50 am)
backy: From what I've read the 6MT on the new 2013 Accord is not geared for super efficiency. In other words, I think it is closer to 2400 rpm at 60 than 2000, but I'm not completely sure. I think they wanted it so that if you're in 6th and floor it something happens, even if you really should be in 5th or 4th or even 3rd to accelerate.
#16879 of 20239 Re: 2013 Accord [benjaminh]
Sep 14, 2012 (11:52 am)
Thanks for your kind words about my Prelude. It truly is a very special car;)
#16880 of 20239 Ben on pillar sizer and strength..
Sep 15, 2012 (12:58 pm)
I lifted the info on pillar size out of a couple of different articles in C/D and M/T but I don't have the actual quotes. I think going back and forth about structural stiffness, high strength steel, aluminum, and magnesium is gonna bore everyone too tears, so I will bow to your post on safety standard particulars.
I just feel less confident on my lane changes in the Optima than I think any other car I have ever owned, and it affects my overall driving enjoyment.
Maybe I should look into and aftermarket camera system. Anything is better than crashing!!!
#16881 of 20239 Re: 2013 Fusion [akirby]
Sep 15, 2012 (1:09 pm)
2013 Fusion is gonna be HOT. There has not been much TV press on it so Ford can sell the remaining outgoing model. I would like the 2.0 Eco Boost (Turbo) 240HP model.
I already love the nod to Aston Martin with the grill design(even though Ford sold it's interest in Aston a couple years ago). I can't wait to start seeing them on the road.
I wonder how smooth the start/stop system on the 1.6 is in heavy traffic. Will it be smooth enough?
#16882 of 20239 Re: Ben on pillar sizer and strength.. [cski]
Sep 15, 2012 (1:09 pm)
Why not just adjust your mirrors properly and then you won't have a blindspot.
#16883 of 20239 Re: Ben on pillar sizer and strength.. [cski]
Sep 15, 2012 (1:15 pm)
I know what you mean. I feel the same way about passing in my Mazda5, which is one of the main reasons I'm thinking of trading it in on a new Accord. I carefully use my mirrors in the Mazda5, and my neck is on a swivel looking around like you said. I do it and it works, but my driving enjoyment is definitely a lot lower in the Mazda5 in that situation than in our Accord. And otherwise, like with your Optima, it's a fun car to drive and I like it. But since I'm someone who likes driving most of the time, I really want both of our cars to be in that camp of fun to drive pretty much all the time....
#16884 of 20239 Adjusting out my blind spot....
Sep 15, 2012 (4:25 pm)
Maybe I should bolt on those giant mirrors from an old F350 dually.
My car will look like dumbo... but then I can finally adjust out that blind spot.....or take flight....lol.