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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16661 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [m6user]
Nov 15, 2011 (5:31 pm)
The Camry only gets 2 mpg more than the Fusion - I wouldn't call that "substantially less". However, the 2010-2011 Camry did get "substantially less" MPG than the 2010-2011 FFH (5+).
The Fusion has a 2 year head start. The 2013 Fusion will leapfrog the Camry next year and Ford will be ahead again. And the C-Max should also give the Prius a run for its money on the smaller lower end.
#16662 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [akirby]
Nov 15, 2011 (5:46 pm)
Your statement is called a speculation. Nobody knows how good the gas millage of next Ford Fusion Hybrid will be.
If they manage to get better gas millage, well, it would be great for all customers, but right now we do not have any information.
It is great that Toyota was able to imrove the gas millage of Camry Hybrid by 9 MPG. I believe that Camry Hybrid is the best Camry among all different Camry models.
#16663 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [dchev]
Nov 15, 2011 (6:05 pm)
It's not just speculation - it's information from insiders that say the new FFH will make a big jump in fuel economy with Ford's generation III hybrid system. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
#16665 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [akirby]
Nov 15, 2011 (8:17 pm)
2 more mpg is better...right? Thousands less in price is better....right?
I'm talking about the 2012 Camry. Let's compare what is available right now as that is what I was talking about. When the new Fusion Hybrid gets here than we can compare but right now the current Fusion Hybrid is behind. And I think Toyota has a lot longer successful history with hybrid tech than Ford has via the Prius if I'm not mistaken.
If the Ford leapfrogs the Camry in the future I will readily admit it as I have no vested interest other than for discussion sake. You seem to have a hard time dealing with the here and now. Fusion Hybrid WAS better than the Camry Hybrid but the Camry has in your words leapfrogged the Fusion. Just accept for it for now.
#16666 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [m6user]
Nov 16, 2011 (5:52 am)
I don't have a hard time accepting anything. All I said was the new Fusion should be even better than the current one and should put Ford back in the lead as far as MPG goes. You're the one that started doing comparisons and got all bent out of shape about it. I don't care either way and I don't have anything against the Camry hybrid. I'm just excited about the new technology.
#16667 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [akirby]
Nov 16, 2011 (6:09 am)
Using that logic the next version Camry should leapfrog the Ford, and so it goes.
#16668 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [kdshapiro]
Nov 16, 2011 (6:14 am)
Yes, and it's called "improving the breed". This goes beyond hybrids, and even the cars themselves.
Who benefits? We the consumers do!
They can "leapfrog" themselves all they want. It's the buyers than benefit in the end.
#16669 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [kdshapiro]
Nov 16, 2011 (7:40 am)
Looks to me like Toyota will be playing catchup for the next several years. Guess we'll find out in 2012.
#16670 of 20165 Re: 2012 Camry Hybrid [akirby]
Nov 16, 2011 (10:03 am)
Well Fords playing catchup now, so I guess it will be Toyota's turn.