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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#16517 of 18437 Drove a 2012 Passat SE 2.5 AT by whoosierdaddy

Jul 23, 2011 (9:18 pm)

...yesterday and found it a pleasant car. Styling more understated than say a Sonata, and appears well made. Driving impressions are that it's very competetive with the others in the 4-door 4-cyl, low-to-mid-20K MSRP group that has gotten very crowded, but I wouldn't say it stands out. Acceleration seems about average for the group, which is weak but will be acceptable to most people for the price. Unfortunate that the 2.0T is not even an option. It may well be a completely different car with the 3.6. Certainly one to consider in this class. It appears that Volkswagen took aim at the CamCord and got there.

#16518 of 18437 Re: MPG [cannon3] by kdshapiro

Jul 24, 2011 (8:03 am)

Replying to: cannon3 (Jul 22, 2011 8:25 pm)
When I need to rent a car, I usually rent a Camry, which gives me 30mpg overall. The Camry is an excellent car to rent, fuel efficient and comfortable. I was seriously thinking about the Camry as my next car. (Car shopping took my to Infiniti and wound up with a G37 however, even though I'm a BMW guy.)
 
The last time I rented however, I chose a Sonata, which was a 2011 model. In my next post I'll go through my impressions of it, I had it for three weeks so had an opportunity to really be with the car. The car would not have made my short list.

#16519 of 18437 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos by mz6greyghost

Aug 12, 2011 (4:59 am)

Click me!
 
An ugly blend of TSX, Forte, and Corolla, all rolled into another coma-inducing Buick-wannabe.
 
Fail... Again...

#16520 of 18437 Re: 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos [mz6greyghost] by fushigi

Aug 12, 2011 (7:24 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Aug 12, 2011 4:59 am)
Even the interior shot of the IP is gross. Yuck.

#16521 of 18437 Re: 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos [mz6greyghost] by acdii

Aug 12, 2011 (8:23 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Aug 12, 2011 4:59 am)
Agreed, fugly. Your comment on the Buick, funny, one of the images had a link to great prices on 2011 Buicks.

#16522 of 18437 Re: 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos [acdii] by gooddeal2

Aug 12, 2011 (8:32 am)

Replying to: acdii (Aug 12, 2011 8:23 am)
Actually, I think the outside is better than the current generation but the inside seems to be a mess.

#16523 of 18437 Re: 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos [gooddeal2] by m6user

Aug 12, 2011 (10:38 am)

Replying to: gooddeal2 (Aug 12, 2011 8:32 am)
These are poor quality pictures. I'll wait to see better ones before I decide. Lot of Camry haters "in here" versus "out there" and would say the same if the car looked great. Based on what I do see in these pics it doesn't appear the exterior has been made much better or worse...just different. The exterior and drivetrain never bothered me as much as it bothered a lot of people. The interior is where they really needed to step up their game and it's hard to tell if quality stuff is present and the pics don't really give a good view IMO. Have to wait for better pics and touchy feely to pass judgement.

#16524 of 18437 Re: 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos [m6user] by backy

Aug 12, 2011 (5:49 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Aug 12, 2011 10:38 am)
The interior photos aren't very good but they are clear enough to show a clunky design that reminds me of the '80s. Toyota should look at cars like the Optima, Sonata, Mazda6, and Regal to see what a well-executed dash looks like.
 
Exterior-wise, it's a big yawn. The roofline is like the pre-2007 Camry's. Front is familiar, and not ugly but no new ground there. Rear looks like a cross between the new Civic and the 2011 Accord. Nothing very interesting, more like the new Passat than more imaginative designs like the (see list above).
 
But Toyota will sell millions of them.

#16525 of 18437 Like It by sandman_6472

Aug 12, 2011 (5:53 pm)

The 2012 has aged nicely and I think it looks great...good job Toyota! Somehow, I think it'll remain the best selling car in America...again.
 
The Sandman

#16526 of 18437 Re: 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos [backy] by m6user

Aug 12, 2011 (8:45 pm)

Replying to: backy (Aug 12, 2011 5:49 pm)
Yeah, I know what you mean about the interior. I didn't have much of a problem with the actual design of the old interior, just the crappy materials. Fake chrome that scratched off easily, cheap plastics and the switchgear wasn't as good as it used to be. Even the cloth seats, headliner and visors seemed cheap. The dash does look a little strange but the poor image quality may add to that "clunky" look. Then again maybe not. I really need to see better pics to really get a feel for it. There have been cars where the early pics were terrible and the cars ended up looking pretty nice IMO.
 
I remember when the early pics of the new Sonata came out and people were all screaming that it looked like melted butter and now dmost think they look great....myself included.

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