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#16511 of 18209 Re: 2012 VW Passat [m6user] by acdii

May 29, 2011 (12:53 pm)

Replying to: m6user (May 25, 2011 8:57 pm)
If that's the case, I would be skeptical on what cars.com says then. The Ecoboost models do not require premium, it is recommended IF you want max performance out of it, but NOT required, so it should not be quoted as needing premium in these articles. In fact the jump to premium is so slight that to me it isnt worth the extra cost unless I plan to take it to a strip.

#16512 of 18209 Re: 2012 VW Passat [acdii] by m6user

May 30, 2011 (10:31 am)

Replying to: acdii (May 29, 2011 12:53 pm)
I'm a little skeptical of all the sites that list vehicle specs but they are usually easier to access the data quickly than going to the manufacturers site. I've seen errors like that at many websites including this one. Edmunds "comparator" used to be the best but now it is one of the worst since the revamp of the site. Cars.com has one similar to the old Edmunds but all are not perfect. Sometimes they say premium, sometimes premium recommended when "premium recommended" is actually the case. I stand corrected on the reference to the cars.com info then.
 
MPG on the awd ecoboost is still EPA 16/21(per Ford's official site info) which is lower than I want especially when I don't need that much power in the first place.
 
Try 19 avg 27 Highway on 87
 
Don't know where you come up with those numbers. Even the standard 3.5L in the Flex front-wheel drive is EPA rated at 17/24(per Ford). I got 36mpg in my Mazda6 one trip but I certainly wouldn't come on here and say it gets 36mpg highway because in reality it most routinely gets about 32mpg hwy. I checked the Flex forum for real world mpg and none were getting 27mpg hwy except one post of yours for one 300 mile trip. CR reports a 17mpg average in their test. I know, I know CR is not the be all or end all but they do test cars in a very methodically manner for comparison purposes.
 
I prefer to deal in EPA numbers for comparison purposes because I see many people complain that they can't get the EPA numbers and many others say they can beat them easily. The EPA numbers do seem to be a pretty good average.

#16513 of 18209 Re: 2012 VW Passat [m6user] by acdii

May 31, 2011 (7:32 am)

Replying to: m6user (May 30, 2011 10:31 am)
Try 19 avg 27 Highway on 87
  
Don't know where you come up with those numbers.
 
Those are my actual numbers. I own a 2010 Flex SEL EB, and those are my AVG MPG numbers. I have seen 27 MPG on long stretches of highway, as long as I'm not fighting a headwind, then it drops to 24. My daily commute consists of back country roads, which has a few stop signs(gas wasters), turns, and a couple 35 MPH stretches with lights(more gas wasters), so 19 is my overall avg. I would say that is VERY good considering how much I play with the giddyupgo peddle.
 
In any case I am getting better than the rated EPA standards, but then again, I did put 50K+ miles on hybrids, and those I went well over the EPA ratings.

#16514 of 18209 Re: 2012 VW Passat [acdii] by m6user

May 31, 2011 (8:11 am)

Replying to: acdii (May 31, 2011 7:32 am)
I'll stick with the EPA numbers for comparison purposes. Most vehicles if driven normally will meet or beat the EPA numbers. They got so beat up prior to the 2008 reality check that the revised numbers are fairly easy to beat unless you drive like a jackrabbit. It's really not anything special to any particular vehicle IMO.

#16515 of 18209 MPG by cannon3

Jul 22, 2011 (8:25 pm)

Just took our 2006 Fusion SEL V6 on a long road trip. Car has about 72,000 miles and with an average speed of 75MPH, and A/C on once in a while I was able to pull down almost 28MPG. This is now considered to be an "old" V6.. I was happy.

#16516 of 18209 Re: MPG [cannon3] by luckyseven

Jul 23, 2011 (10:42 am)

Replying to: cannon3 (Jul 22, 2011 8:25 pm)
Few days ago I took 2011 Camry LE V6 with 1500 miles on the ODO, on a long trip. Had 4 adults and trunk full of luggage, A/C on all the time speed was about 75MPH+. Got 31.5 MPG. Waiting to see all new 2012 Camry soon.

#16517 of 18209 Drove a 2012 Passat SE 2.5 AT by whoosierdaddy

Jul 23, 2011 (9:18 pm)

...yesterday and found it a pleasant car. Styling more understated than say a Sonata, and appears well made. Driving impressions are that it's very competetive with the others in the 4-door 4-cyl, low-to-mid-20K MSRP group that has gotten very crowded, but I wouldn't say it stands out. Acceleration seems about average for the group, which is weak but will be acceptable to most people for the price. Unfortunate that the 2.0T is not even an option. It may well be a completely different car with the 3.6. Certainly one to consider in this class. It appears that Volkswagen took aim at the CamCord and got there.

#16518 of 18209 Re: MPG [cannon3] by kdshapiro

Jul 24, 2011 (8:03 am)

Replying to: cannon3 (Jul 22, 2011 8:25 pm)
When I need to rent a car, I usually rent a Camry, which gives me 30mpg overall. The Camry is an excellent car to rent, fuel efficient and comfortable. I was seriously thinking about the Camry as my next car. (Car shopping took my to Infiniti and wound up with a G37 however, even though I'm a BMW guy.)
 
The last time I rented however, I chose a Sonata, which was a 2011 model. In my next post I'll go through my impressions of it, I had it for three weeks so had an opportunity to really be with the car. The car would not have made my short list.

#16519 of 18209 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos by mz6greyghost

Aug 12, 2011 (4:59 am)

Click me!
 
An ugly blend of TSX, Forte, and Corolla, all rolled into another coma-inducing Buick-wannabe.
 
Fail... Again...

#16520 of 18209 Re: 2012 Toyota Camry Leaked: Full Specs and Photos [mz6greyghost] by fushigi

Aug 12, 2011 (7:24 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Aug 12, 2011 4:59 am)
Even the interior shot of the IP is gross. Yuck.

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