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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16356 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [acdii]
Mar 16, 2011 (8:42 am)
I don't know why you call it awful, what exactly didn't you like about it? I own 2009 Camry and have no complains about it. Does what it's supposed to do. If I'd need more thrills I'd go with BMW but we are talking about $19K car here. I really glad that Ford finally got it's act together and started producing better cars but I'm not ready to jump the boat because Toyota didn't give me a single reason to do so. My second car is second generation Highlander, and man that is a great car.
#16357 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [luckyseven]
Mar 16, 2011 (11:25 am)
I'm not ready to jump the boat because Toyota didn't give me a single reason to do so
Lying to the public and the government and actively covering up potentially fatal safety issues isn't a good reason?
#16358 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [akirby]
Mar 16, 2011 (2:52 pm)
You really behind the loop on that one. All it was a government assisted effort to discredit Toyota and scare people into buying Government Motors cars. It worked! Some Toyota car owners were selling their cars at giant loss because they were scared to death (hope you're a not one of them!). Toyota's image not as shiny as it was anymore even if not NHTSA nor even NASA found a thing.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- An intensive 10 month investigation into possible causes of unintended acceleration in Toyota cars found no fault with the automaker's electronic throttle control systems, the Department of Transportation announced Tuesday (Feb 8).
But NHTSA also mentioned another possible cause: drivers pushing the gas instead of the brakes.
Many drivers may have confused the gas and brake pedals a problem that may account for "the vast majority" of the unintended acceleration incidents the agency investigated, NHTSA deputy administrator Ron Medford said at Tuesday's NHTSA press briefing.
#16359 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [luckyseven]
Mar 16, 2011 (1:09 pm)
>All it was a government assisted push to discredit Toyota and push people to buy Government Motors cars. It backfired badly though:
You don't cite any support for either tenet. It was Toyota caused; it wasn't government pushed. And it didn't backfire.
#16361 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [kirstie_h]
Mar 16, 2011 (1:16 pm)
>positive YTD change vs. last year.
Didn't most company's sales increase from last year?
#16362 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [imidazol97]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Mar 16, 2011 (1:26 pm)
Yes, but if any "campaign" had worked, one wouldn't expect to see a higher than average increase in Toyota sales. You'd expect to see people flocking to other manufacturers.
Interestingly, when the Toyota story broke, industry analysts almost immediately predicted that if anyone, Hyundai would be the big winner. Appears to be playing out that way.
#16363 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [kirstie_h]
Mar 16, 2011 (2:14 pm)
No matter what Toyota does, there are certain folks always posting complaints about them.
#16364 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [smarty666]
Mar 16, 2011 (4:20 pm)
It is not only Toyota, you can add GM to this list.
And also Government was responsible for 9/11, established death panels, assassinated Kennedy and fabricated landing on the Moon.
#16365 of 20200 Re: Midsizers at the auto show [savetheland]
Mar 16, 2011 (5:46 pm)
We only talk cars here. You can take all other interesting you topics to conspiracy theories boards.