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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#16318 of 18436 Re: press request [debbiepski] by acdii

Feb 17, 2011 (8:18 pm)

Replying to: debbiepski (Feb 17, 2011 7:14 pm)
That's how I felt about the 2009 Camry Hybrid I had. After the first week I was very disappointed in what it had, and just could not figure out what made the car so highly rated. It squeaked, it rattled, the sunroof would stick, the seats were thin, the center stack lighting was way too bright and couldn't be adjusted, and was horrible when it get foggy at night, had to turn the dash lights off to be able to see.
 
I have a Fusion Sport now, and hands down it is a far better car than the Camry. With the Toyotas, after a year of driving them I was eager to get rid of them, I don't feel that way about the Fusion, and that is saying a lot.
 
Hyundai has their Hybrid out now, I checked pricing on it, and it looks like competition between the Camry and Fusion is now going to be tougher, the base price of the Sonata Hybrid is below both the Ford and the Toyota, it gets better MPG than the Camry, has a better warranty, can get up to 74 MPH on electric only, better than the Fusion, and fully loaded is up to $3k less than either the Ford or toyota. Hyundai sure slipped that one under the radar.

#16319 of 18436 Re: press request [acdii] by mz6greyghost

Feb 18, 2011 (6:45 am)

Replying to: acdii (Feb 17, 2011 8:18 pm)
Hyundai sure slipped that one under the radar.
 
Well, maybe. I'd hardly call a car with a front end that looks like a largemouth bass slipping "under the radar"...

#16320 of 18436 Re: press request [mz6greyghost] by backy

Feb 18, 2011 (8:32 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Feb 18, 2011 6:45 am)
A nod to Mazda, maybe? (wink)

#16321 of 18436 Re: press request [mz6greyghost] by acdii

Feb 18, 2011 (8:32 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Feb 18, 2011 6:45 am)
Before Ford had the Fusion Hybrid in the showrooms, they had marketed it, and had information out that it was soon to be out. The Hyundai, while I knew they had Hybrid technology in the works, I didn't know they were that close to a marketable car. First I knew about the Sonata Hybrid was when they have them ready to sell, that's what I meant by under the radar.
 
Then there is the Volt, for years we knew Chevy had it, but it wasn't until this year that they are actually selling them.
 
And that front end, it has the same Coefficient of Drag as a Prius.

#16322 of 18436 Re: press request [acdii] by backy

Feb 18, 2011 (8:34 am)

Replying to: acdii (Feb 18, 2011 8:32 am)
The Sonata Hybrid was talked about a long time before introduction. The lithium polymer battery in particular got a lot of press. There were also multiple reviews of the Hybrid before it hit the streets. Hardly "under the radar" unless the radar was turned off.

#16323 of 18436 Re: "Epic" Optima [stickguy] by mtnman1

Feb 18, 2011 (9:00 am)

Replying to: stickguy (Feb 07, 2011 8:46 pm)
I was just over at my local Kia Dealership getting a recall taken care of on my 2011 Sorento. They had a loaded Optima EX on the showroom floor. Had everything: Heated and Cooled front seats, Heated rear seats, Heated Steering Wheel, Nav, Panaromic roof, Etc. Was Pearl white with the beige interior. Fantastic car for a Msrp of $27,500 I think it was. I would have loved to taken a test drive, but I knew it would be a bad idea. I have a 2009 Ford Fusion SEL V6 that is loaded with only 28,000 miles on it, so it will be awhile before I'm in the market again. Probably another 4 years after my youngest graduates from college. With tuition and room and board at the school he wants to go to it's about $47,000/yr. Even with the scholorship money it's going to be expensive. Too bad. This car is going to be hot for Kia. Of course, by not driving it I can't really judge whether I would actually buy it.

#16324 of 18436 Re: press request [acdii] by plekto

Feb 18, 2011 (11:10 am)

Replying to: acdii (Feb 17, 2011 8:18 pm)
I have a Fusion Sport now, and hands down it is a far better car than the Camry. With the Toyotas, after a year of driving them I was eager to get rid of them, I don't feel that way about the Fusion, and that is saying a lot.
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Vanilla with sprinkles is better than vanilla. Ford is making a lot of good vehicles lately, and the year end discounts are quite attractive. Toyota simply never offers them, of maybe it's a once in a blue moon $500 incentive.

#16325 of 18436 Re: press request [plekto] by mz6greyghost

Feb 18, 2011 (11:25 am)

Replying to: plekto (Feb 18, 2011 11:10 am)
Toyota simply never offers them, of maybe it's a once in a blue moon $500 incentive.
 
That used to be the case, but not anymore. Ever since the bottom fell out of Toyota's "quality" reputation (via their recalls and their admitted deception to the government and customers), I've seen a lot more rebates/incentives offered for the Camry for '11 than ever before. In fact, Toyota in general has had a lot of TV time lately, promoting rebates and incentives that were unheard of only 2 years ago.

#16326 of 18436 Re: press request [mz6greyghost] by baggs32

Feb 21, 2011 (10:15 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Feb 18, 2011 11:25 am)
$1500 on the hood of every '11 Camry here in western PA right now. I think it was about $1k more around the holidays for the '10 models.

#16327 of 18436 FWIW... by brainfertilize

Feb 28, 2011 (8:22 am)

...6 months driving my 2010 Mazda6 iSport. Still loving it. Never once felt it was underpowered. Still get a thrill any time I use the steering wheel at speeds above 40, due to the fluid response. Continually impressed by the smooth, solid braking.
 
If it isn't the perfect family sports sedan, at least it is the perfect family sports sedan for me.

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