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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#15785 of 20221 Re: size standards [igozoomzoom]
Oct 23, 2010 (7:23 am)
While it is certainly in the eye of the beholder, but I would not call the current Mazda6 the best looking car in its class, but a long shot. It looks fattened and disjointed, such that even, ahem, Camry is a looker in comparison.
I own a Mazda3, my second Mazda, and I am generally a fan of Mazda vehicles, but 2009+ Mazda6 looks bad (IMO, of course).
Previous gen Mazda6, on the other hand, was good looking.
#15786 of 20221 Re: size standards [nsbio1]
Oct 23, 2010 (9:39 am)
I actually find the new Mazda 6 styling to be much more attractive than the previous model. But I don't like how big it is!
I guess we all have slightly different needs....
#15787 of 20221 Re: Consider the Mercury Milan, really. [pod]
Oct 23, 2010 (9:45 am)
I agree, the Milan is a stealth car in this class. Too bad it's going away.
The best thing about the car is, the more you talk about it, the lower the price gets! (wink)
#15788 of 20221 Re: Consider the Mercury Milan, really. [backy]
Oct 23, 2010 (11:56 am)
It appears the Milan is available at about $5000 below MSRP, about $2000 more than they are giving off on the Fusion. This may be the best deal on a moderately priced midsize since the 2006-2008 Mazda6, which often had similar deals available.
#15789 of 20221 Re: Consider the Mercury Milan, really. [jeffyscott]
Oct 23, 2010 (12:55 pm)
Similar deals can be had on the 2010 Optima and Galant, and there's big deals on Malibus now also. But I'd take a Milan over any of those. I do recall the great deals on the 2006-8 Mazda6i, around $16k for the Sport package with 17" alloys, CD changer etc. Ah, the good old days!
But my comment about the price dropping was the price on pod's Milan dropping, even as he spoke about it.
#15790 of 20221 Re: The 2011 Buick Regal [tlong]
Oct 23, 2010 (5:10 pm)
Are there any premium 178-184" long sedans out there that aren't going to cost nearly $40K?
Just three currently. I've been looking for cars like this.
1: The G25. At 31K, out the door, it's a great deal.(29K if you want the base model) It's 187 inches long, but since a lot of that is bumpers and it's fairly round/low profile(unlike say, a CTS), I think it *just* qualifies/fits, especially since it has RWD.
2: A 2010 IS250. It's just the right size and RWD. The turning radius and handling on these two is superior and makes it feel MUCH smaller than, say, an Accord.
3: (if you drive manual) The Civic Si. 22K, loaded with all the goodies.. You can add leather yourself(aftermarket, REAL leather)) and the suspension and brake and so on upgrades and still not be past 26K. It'll whomp on a Regal quite easily. Unfortunately, nobody makes a good midsize sporty/luxury car like this any more. Nissan and Toyota dropped their higher-end versions out of the U.S. market and so did most of the rest. The Si still is available and is a blast to drive. (yes, it's 175.5 inches, but being FWD, it handles :"midsize" and is pretty much midsize inside as well. (doubly so since size-wise it's almost identical to the previous TSX, which was *the* choice for this segment. The new one is too large and heavy and needs to ditch the FWD lest it start to follow Buick's lead.
#15791 of 20221 Re: The 2011 Buick Regal [plekto]
Oct 23, 2010 (5:53 pm)
... and is pretty much midsize inside as well.
Let's not get too carried away. The Civic isn't even a COMPACT, EPA interior-space wise-it's in the sub-compact class. Several compacts trounce it in interior volume, e.g. Elantra, Sentra, and Versa are all mid-sized in interior volume, while most others are in the compact class interior-wise vs. sub-compact.
As I said earlier, I think the G25 would fit the bill well--certainly upscale, and well under $40k.
#15792 of 20221 Re: The 2011 Buick Regal [plekto]
Oct 23, 2010 (6:06 pm)
Your love affair for RWD is a non-starter for many in the snow-belt, especially in New England where there are hills "everywhere."
#15793 of 20221 Re: The 2011 Buick Regal [plekto]
Oct 23, 2010 (6:14 pm)
....previous TSX, which was *the* choice for this segment. The new one is too large and heavy and needs to ditch the FWD lest it start to follow Buick's lead.
I've actually thought about buying a used previous model TSX. I don't like the size and greater numbness of the new one.
Oct 23, 2010 (8:44 pm)
might be the right size, but good luck find a RWD one anywhere in the northern half of the country (as in, any place that has seen a snowflake in the last 20 years). Probably only AWD models will ever be in stock.
Is the new TSX more than 184"? certainly the old one fit the profile.