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#15616 of 18168 Re: 2013 Ford Fusion [mz6greyghost] by akirby

Sep 16, 2010 (5:58 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Sep 16, 2010 5:02 am)
They had to merge the development schedules of both vehicles - the U.S. Fusion and the European Mondeo. Even thought it might be a 2013 model it will probably debut around March of 2012 which is only 18 months away.
 
This is all part of Ford's global platform campaign - build one vehicle and sell it everywhere just like the Fiesta and the upcoming 2012 Focus due in March.
 
Don't expect the new Fusion to look exactly like that. These are Mondeo testing mules. They wouldn't be showing the new body style now. Given what they were able to do with the Fiesta and Focus I expect a similarly stunning design.
 
It's also very likely that the next Taurus will be built on this platform (stretched and/or widened). And the new Fusion will likely only offer 4 cylinder engines including at least one ecoboost (direct injection turbo) model.

#15617 of 18168 I like the old Fusion bodystyle betta... by iluvmysephia1

Sep 17, 2010 (3:18 am)

than this Mondeo-influenced new Fusion. I think that this is just a Mondeo-mule like was already stated, and Ford will change the bodystyle to something new. Ford is really going great guns right now, and Alan Mulally deserves much credit for it. You know there's lots of great people behind the scenes there with Alan, but man, this would be the American car company I would buy from if I was so inclined to buy American.
 
Which I am not.
 

2013 Toyota "FT-86" which may be named Celica
 
I want one of these RWD babies in 6-speed manual transmission form. Proposed pricing is right around $20,000 for the base model. It may get a boxer motor from Subaru with 190hp. 4 cylinders of course and with the proposed idea of keeping the body light that would be more than enough torque and power ta the wheels for this NE Nevada padre to spiddle out. But starting with a great bodystyle like that they can tweak and fiddle and fit all they want and further refine this beauty for production and delivery should be in late 2012 sometime.

#15618 of 18168 hybrid based on prius mechanicals by m6user

Sep 17, 2010 (11:43 am)

This may be on the edge of our topic but I'm wondering what others may think.
 
It seems to me that a big drawback for many buyers to considering a Prius is it's looks. I fully realize the aerodynamics involved in the body styling to achieve that avg 50mpg, but what if it had good looking midsize sedan(interior is already EPA midsize I believe) or hatch metalwork on it and averaged say 45mpg?
 
I don't think the aerodynamic change would affect the city mpg that much but the hwy mpg would probably be substantially reduced.. I still believe the avg mpg would be really high.
  
I think it could be a very good seller.

#15619 of 18168 Re: hybrid based on prius mechanicals [m6user] by tlong

Sep 17, 2010 (12:24 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Sep 17, 2010 11:43 am)
You can get a Camry hybrid or a Fusion hybrid. But for some reason the hybrid sedans don't seem to sell as well. People WANT that weird styling.

#15620 of 18168 Re: hybrid based on prius mechanicals [tlong] by shabadoo25

Sep 17, 2010 (12:55 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Sep 17, 2010 12:24 pm)
Part of the hybrid purchasing reasoning for some folks is to announce to the world how green or frugal they are.
 
A hybrid version of an otherwise regular car doesn't do that in the way the distinct Prius styling does.

#15621 of 18168 Re: hybrid based on prius mechanicals [tlong] by m6user

Sep 17, 2010 (1:26 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Sep 17, 2010 12:24 pm)
A lot of them do but in conversations I've had with people a lot of them say that they love the 50mpg but just couldn't live with the styling. The Fusion and Camry use different systems and don't even approach the avg mpg the Prius does. I'm just saying I think you could use the exact system Prius does and put a more mainstream, maybe even sporty, body on it and it would attract a lot of people.

#15622 of 18168 Re: hybrid based on prius mechanicals [shabadoo25] by m6user

Sep 17, 2010 (1:30 pm)

Replying to: shabadoo25 (Sep 17, 2010 12:55 pm)
I'm sure there are some people that fall into that category but I don't think the majority want to "announce to the world" anything. They just like to use less gas and emit less polution. The hybrid versions of regular cars just don't come close to the mpg of the Prius.

#15623 of 18168 midsize dilemna-'11 Accord vs. Camry by metro3

Sep 17, 2010 (2:27 pm)

Time to trade and frustrated over options. Accord EXL-V6 vs Camry XLE V6. Accord has better handling and excellent fit and finish. Camry quieter ride but smaller, fit and finish not as nice, handling and brakes are not as fun to drive. Drive 25K /yr for sales job and want the the most reliable, comfortable ride possible with high residual value after 3 years. Currently driving '08 Accord EX-l I4. Road noise is horrible and I am done with 4 cylinder sedans.
Would appreciate input for a vehicle around $32-35K that addresses the above comments.
Somewhat concerned with Toyota based on negative PR over the past months.

#15624 of 18168 Re: midsize dilemna-'11 Accord vs. Camry [metro3] by berri

Sep 17, 2010 (4:35 pm)

Replying to: metro3 (Sep 17, 2010 2:27 pm)
Avalon

#15625 of 18168 Re: midsize dilemna-'11 Accord vs. Camry [metro3] by shabadoo25

Sep 17, 2010 (5:14 pm)

Replying to: metro3 (Sep 17, 2010 2:27 pm)
Acura TSX.

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