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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#15277 of 20237 Kia K5 (Optima) beats Sonata in Korea sales last month:
Jul 04, 2010 (5:57 am)
K5 beat Sonata in Korean sales last month. There has to be reviews out there on this thing, I assume they're all in Korean though.
[QUOTE]K5 Dethrones Sonata as Top-Selling Car
The newly-released Kia K5 has outsold the Hyundai Sonata in the domestic market, according to an industry report released on Thursday.
Kia Motors sold 10,673 units of the K5 last month while sister company Hyundai Motor sold 9,957 Sonatas. It is the first time a Kia mid-sized sedan has topped the monthly sales chart since the company was acquired by Hyundai in 1998.
The K5 hit the market in late May and sold 3,552 units within the first week of its debut.
Market watchers are calling the K5's rise above the Sonata an industry landmark. The Sonata was the invincible leader of the mid-sized sedan category for 11 years, and it continually ruled the monthly sales chart except for July 2003 when it was overtaken by the Renault Samsung SM5 due to a Hyundai labor strike.
Jul 04, 2010 (10:10 am)
this news about the new 2011 Kia K5 (Optima's name in SK) outselling Sonata is groundbreaking and really quite refreshing. It is more success coming from new Design Chief Peter Schreyer of Kia (formerly the Design Chief of Audi Motors). You'll see Audi cues on new Kia's, but mostly on the new Kia SUV's.
The new 2011 Kia Optima will face very stiff competition, but backy is right, all the hullabulloo I raised supporting the 2010 Suzuki Kizashi will be thrown out the door when the new '11 Kia Optima comes out. Hard ta argue with that Minnesotan. Competition will be fierce but this new midsize from Kia is great and the new Cadenza (the next Kia slot-size sedan up in size a tad) they are developing will be absolutely gorgeous, too.
But I still love the new 2010 Suzuki Kizashi and I kind of like the Ford Fusion Hybrid, too. Really a decent looking body design and ever since a team of hypermilers got 81.5mpg driving 1445.7 miles on a single tank of gas April 28, 2009, I've been following the Ford Fusion Hybrid from the cheap seats.
#15279 of 20237 Fusion update
Jul 05, 2010 (7:51 pm)
Well, I have over 63,000 miles on my 06 Fusion SEL V6. No problems with the vehicle. I am very picky on the maintenance side of things. Oil changes every 3- 4,000 miles, transmission flush at 35,000, radiator flush every 2 years. No squeaks or rattles on the interior side of things. Interior holding up well with 2 kids/friends. Carpet a bit dirty in places and looking a little worn in some places. Wind noise is happening around the windshield at speeds above 60MPH. Also noticed a bit of wind noise around the sunroof area. Overall, I would give the car an 8 out of 10 after 5 years of ownership. I would recommend the Fusion be on your shopping list, and deserving of a test drive.
#15280 of 20237 Re: Fusion update [cannon3]
Jul 07, 2010 (6:20 am)
The Fusion will definitely be on my short list when I buy a car in a year or 2. I hope the interior looks better than last time I sat in one. Interior design is a consideration, but I won't let it stop me if the car is otherwise top notch. It would have to be butt-ugly to stop me. I hope Fusion is working on their prices. Last time I did a price check, the value wasn't there.
#15281 of 20237 New Kia K5 (Optima) Preview
Jul 12, 2010 (3:30 am)
I really hope they rename it K5, I wonder if you could request K5 badging or is that asking too much? ... anyway here is some great video of it in black and a short preview:
Hot. Some quotes from the text you can read at the link:
"Often photographs donít do a car justice and to be honest my first impressions of the Optimaís web pics were tepid. Iím now a believer. In person this car has a gravity thatís hard to describe. Itís design appears more expensive than many cars wearing established premium badges. These days itís hard to create an attractive signature look that doesnít mimic some other brand, Kia appears to have done it with a sweeping piece of chrome that slices through the top of the C pillar. Itís a home run."
#15282 of 20237 I like the Mazda6 way better than I thought I would!
Jul 12, 2010 (8:51 am)
I just bought a 2010 Mazda as a family car. This was not my first choice for myself, but I needed a new car for the wife to drive (we have a 2-year-old boy and another baby due in October). I honestly didn't expect to like the car that much as it's just a 2.5L 4cyl with auto trans. I used to say I would never like a car with a 4cyl auto drivetrain, but I have to say I'm really impressed by this one. The engine has plenty of power and the AT works smoothly with this engine.
Not that I wouldn't rather be driving a WRX, mind you, but I do like the Mazda6.
#15283 of 20237 Re: I like the Mazda6 way better than I thought I would! [exit123]
Jul 12, 2010 (8:52 am)
I cannot figure out why Mazda does not sell as many Mazda6's as they should. The reviews are excellent and the car is a blast to drive. Plus, the build quality is fantastic. I just don't get it!
I will say that Mazda's advertising is poor. That might have something to do with it.
#15284 of 20237 Re: New Kia K5 (Optima) Preview [dash5]
Jul 12, 2010 (8:58 am)
Nict try at the K5 badging.
Nice review, hadn't seen that website before and thanks for posting. Would love to see pictures of this car just once without those godawful wheels on it.
Just read a test drive of the Sonata Turbo and it was very, very impressive. I personally like the Optima looks a lot better both outside and inside. If the interior on the new Optima is of decent quality material, The SX turbo will be on my short list.
#15285 of 20237 Re: I like the Mazda6 way better than I thought I would! [aviboy97]
Jul 12, 2010 (9:00 am)
I agree. As we all know, people don't always buy the best car. I think one thing that hurt the Mazda6 is that you have to move up a couple of trim levels (to the Touring Plus) to get Bluetooth. It's a lot easier on the Fusion or Malibu.
That's ok though, the slow sales helped me get a great price.
I have a Motorla T505 bluetooth speakerphone that cost $55 and works fine via the FM radio.
#15286 of 20237 Re: I like the Mazda6 way better than I thought I would! [aviboy97]
Jul 12, 2010 (9:08 am)
I have an 07 Mazda6 and was eagerly anticipating the newer version. The things I don't like about the new Mazda6 is that it got a little too big, the interior is nice but lacks useful storage for items like cell phone etc and I think the setup with the pushbutton start is tacky looking on the steering column. They took the nice cubby that the old model had at the base of the dash and replaced it with that pushbutton setup. Don't like it. The other thing is the gas mpg on both engines. I expected more improvement on the 4cyl and was shocked at the poor mpg of the 6 cyl. Not a real fan of the weird stripes in the cloth interiors either. Just a lot of nit picky things I know but when I usually have a vehicle for 7-8 yrs I really want to be satisfied with it.