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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#15215 of 20187 Drove the Altima today...
Jun 25, 2010 (3:01 pm)
So I test drove an Altima 2.5S today. It had 2 packages on it, sunroof and alloy wheels were on it. Basically equipped exactly like a Camry LE I'm considering that has the sunroof and alloys. The lease though on the Altima is not as competitive. Actually not even that close which surprised me. Surprised the dealer too (all owned by the same company). But the Altima was very nice, I could easily live with it. But Camry will probaly win out due to price (tight budget).
I like the Camry interior, compared to most here I guess. Although compared to my 2006 Impreza base, most things seem like a step up, lulz. I thought the Accord very ordinary. The Malibu looks glitzy, but I'm wondering if I would get tired of it. I went to look at the Ford Fusion too, but all my dealer had was hybrid versions, seems weird. But this is a hybrid kinda town.
#15216 of 20187 Re: Drove the Altima today... [irg]
Jun 26, 2010 (7:03 am)
If you're looking for a good 4-cylinder model, Have you driven the Sonata? Or if you can wait, the '11 Optima?
#15217 of 20187 Honda Accord Styling
Jun 26, 2010 (9:05 am)
You are right about Honda styling--horrible and I own an '05 Accord.
#15218 of 20187 2011 Kia Optima prices
Jun 26, 2010 (11:01 am)
Ok this link allows you to build a new 2011 Optima: Optima Configuration
Turbo SX with every option available in it, including NAV, I'm getting 31,195.00 MSRP
Click "Optima" then "All new 2011 Optima Configurator" button on the bottom right. People have reported getting different numbers, ranging from 29k to 32k for a fully loaded turbo. So it's possible they are playing with the numbers still.
#15219 of 20187 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [dash5]
Jun 26, 2010 (10:53 am)
$31k for an Optima! Talk about "the power to surprise".
#15220 of 20187 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [backy]
Jun 26, 2010 (1:12 pm)
Infiniti G37 Sedan (Journey)(328HP):
CarsDirect Price: $29,427 (plus $865 delivery on top of that)/$30,292 out the door.
Acura TL (280HP):
CarsDirect Price: $31,023 (plus $860 delivery on top of that)/$31,883 out the door.
Note that the G37 isn't the base model, and the Acura isn't the smaller and less expensive TSX. These are legitimate midsize sedans that compete with the likes of Mercedes, BMW, and so on head-to-head.
That $31K has to be a typo. There's no way Hyundai will manage to compete in this segment.
#15221 of 20187 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [plekto]
Jun 26, 2010 (1:20 pm)
Every midsize sedan in this segment cracks 31k for their V6 model fully loaded. This is no different, except better gas mileage. That's number one, number 2, you're comparing MSRP with what looks to be invoice prices from carsdirect. Is that intentional? If so you'll have to go through your logic on that because I'm not seeing it.
For instance the G37 Journey (A car I'd love to have, but I'd need AWD) MSRP is 34,450. Tack on premium package and MSRP is over 37k.
#15222 of 20187 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [dash5]
Jun 26, 2010 (4:36 pm)
Is that with destination chg? Usually that's around $750 or thereabouts. That would put the loaded Optima turbo at just shy of $32k which is what I've been saying over on the 2011 Sonata forum. A lot of money for either an Optima or a Sonata IMO.
#15223 of 20187 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [m6user]
Jun 26, 2010 (4:41 pm)
John Krafcik stated on Thursday night that the base Turbo Limited would be $28K. Base SE Turbo would be $25K.
#15224 of 20187 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [plekto]
Jun 26, 2010 (4:46 pm)
I appreciate where you are coming from and it's a legit comparison but please compare apples to apples. You say "out the door". In these forums out the door means total price of vehicle including tax, title, license, dealer fees, etc. I don't think you meant that but that's what the common definition of "out the door" means on these forums.
Next you compare discounted street price to brand new model MSRP? That is about as unfair as you can get. Ok, for a a few weeks the Sonata/Optima turbo will probably sell close to MSRP but after a month or two they will start to be discounted as well and the price will come down to $28k or $29k. Still a lot but it will get cheaper as time goes by.
I totally agree with you though that the price is getting up their for these cars and I would certainly do a lot of comparison shopping of the new Infiniti G25 and Buick Regal. The thing that Hyundai has going for it is the warranty and the MPG combined with the HP on regualar gas. That's a pretty good combo but they are not in the same league as far as quality of materials go when compared to Infinitis, Acuras or Buicks