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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#15212 of 20236 Re: 2011 Accord changes... [kirstie_h]
Jun 25, 2010 (8:45 am)
There's some nice design elements in the Malibu, but the thing that screams "cheap" to me is the black plastic knobs on the light-colored fascia. That is a common design theme for recent Chevy cars (including Cobalt, but even worse there) and it mars what would otherwise be a decent interior. The LTZ is nicer looking, due to the two-tone treatment and I think the plastic on the center console is darker also. Based on more recent Chevys, including the Equinox and Cruze, I can see they are improving a lot on the interiors.
#15213 of 20236 Re: 2011 Accord changes... [m6user]
Jun 25, 2010 (8:50 am)
Yup my take exactly. I was actually taken aback when I saw the interior of the Camry. I thought "this cant be right". The exterior however I think looks very good, it's a sharp car especially in the higher trim levels. The ride too, I know some people dismiss it as floaty and whatnot but it is what it is and does a very good job of being a comfortable cruiser.
The problem with Honda is they are moving in the wrong direction. The Accords are looking worse and Acura... that new TL is a big turn off for me. I think they took too many hits for a "bland" design on the old TL and went for bold. It didnt pay off in my opinion. Too bad because it could be a hot car, fix the can opener snout and weird looking smiley face rear and they have something.
#15214 of 20236 Re: 2011 Accord changes... [dash5]
Jun 25, 2010 (9:16 am)
My daughter has a 2009 Camry for a company car. It has the a sunroof and the V6 provided by the company and she paid for the JBL sound system. She loves the car and when I drove it I noticed it flies with the V6 and she gets decent mpg. Rides very nice and you don't have to make a million little corrections as it tracks nicely on the interstate. All in all very nice except for the previously noted interior problems. I have a Mazda6 and I like the quick handling but I do notice a lot more bumps and noise then when riding in her Camry.
#15215 of 20236 Drove the Altima today...
Jun 25, 2010 (3:01 pm)
So I test drove an Altima 2.5S today. It had 2 packages on it, sunroof and alloy wheels were on it. Basically equipped exactly like a Camry LE I'm considering that has the sunroof and alloys. The lease though on the Altima is not as competitive. Actually not even that close which surprised me. Surprised the dealer too (all owned by the same company). But the Altima was very nice, I could easily live with it. But Camry will probaly win out due to price (tight budget).
I like the Camry interior, compared to most here I guess. Although compared to my 2006 Impreza base, most things seem like a step up, lulz. I thought the Accord very ordinary. The Malibu looks glitzy, but I'm wondering if I would get tired of it. I went to look at the Ford Fusion too, but all my dealer had was hybrid versions, seems weird. But this is a hybrid kinda town.
#15216 of 20236 Re: Drove the Altima today... [irg]
Jun 26, 2010 (7:03 am)
If you're looking for a good 4-cylinder model, Have you driven the Sonata? Or if you can wait, the '11 Optima?
#15217 of 20236 Honda Accord Styling
Jun 26, 2010 (9:05 am)
You are right about Honda styling--horrible and I own an '05 Accord.
#15218 of 20236 2011 Kia Optima prices
Jun 26, 2010 (11:01 am)
Ok this link allows you to build a new 2011 Optima: Optima Configuration
Turbo SX with every option available in it, including NAV, I'm getting 31,195.00 MSRP
Click "Optima" then "All new 2011 Optima Configurator" button on the bottom right. People have reported getting different numbers, ranging from 29k to 32k for a fully loaded turbo. So it's possible they are playing with the numbers still.
#15219 of 20236 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [dash5]
Jun 26, 2010 (10:53 am)
$31k for an Optima! Talk about "the power to surprise".
#15220 of 20236 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [backy]
Jun 26, 2010 (1:12 pm)
Infiniti G37 Sedan (Journey)(328HP):
CarsDirect Price: $29,427 (plus $865 delivery on top of that)/$30,292 out the door.
Acura TL (280HP):
CarsDirect Price: $31,023 (plus $860 delivery on top of that)/$31,883 out the door.
Note that the G37 isn't the base model, and the Acura isn't the smaller and less expensive TSX. These are legitimate midsize sedans that compete with the likes of Mercedes, BMW, and so on head-to-head.
That $31K has to be a typo. There's no way Hyundai will manage to compete in this segment.
#15221 of 20236 Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [plekto]
Jun 26, 2010 (1:20 pm)
Every midsize sedan in this segment cracks 31k for their V6 model fully loaded. This is no different, except better gas mileage. That's number one, number 2, you're comparing MSRP with what looks to be invoice prices from carsdirect. Is that intentional? If so you'll have to go through your logic on that because I'm not seeing it.
For instance the G37 Journey (A car I'd love to have, but I'd need AWD) MSRP is 34,450. Tack on premium package and MSRP is over 37k.