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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#14494 of 20239 Re: 2010 Sonata [serenity185]
Mar 28, 2010 (4:26 am)
Hyundai is offering thousands of dollars in rebates on their 2010/2009 Sonata models, if you are seriously considering paying $18K I'd see what you could negotiate a new 2009 Sonata GLS V6 down to. The MSRP is only like $23K, and Hyundai is giving 5K in rebates, if you got the dealer to give you another $2500 you'd be at the price you are looking for and driving a new one.
Also, that extended warranty sounds like a ripoff - It was only $1200 on the new Sonata, how are they charging $2000 for a 2009? On this site they have the 2010 GLS V6 for $15,815, at least you could print it out and use it to negotiate with your dealer. http://cars.overstock.com/configurator.html?makeId=2235&modelId=443&upfrontPrici- ng=Y
#14495 of 20239 Re: One of these might fit the bill... [fushigi]
Mar 28, 2010 (5:38 am)
He said they would be shipping this fall.
#14496 of 20239 Re: 2010 Sonata [syitalian25]
Mar 28, 2010 (7:18 am)
Are there actually Hyundai dealers with 2009s left? Most dealers are finishing out the 2010 Sonatas. There may be a few new ones left but even a used 2009 V6 LTD for around 14k would be a good deal and still have plenty of btb warranty left.
#14497 of 20239 Re: 2010 Sonata [thegraduate]
Mar 28, 2010 (7:41 am)
Hey grad, just curious. Are you still looking or did you decide to wait for another day?
#14498 of 20239 Re: One of these might fit the bill... [akirby]
Mar 28, 2010 (8:20 am)
My bad; the original was from acdii: "We shall see, that is if it ever hits production. A lot good a concept car does going up Pikes Peak if they can't get it onto dealer lots." Seems to be in denial that the product will come out at all, let alone on time.
Mar 28, 2010 (12:06 pm)
I don't see the Volt selling too well if they don't get the price down into the $25K-$30K range. People with $40,000 to spend on a car are not the ones most concerned with fuel economy and definitely not the ones that want to be bothered with the pain of owning an electric plug-in (for the most part). Didn't Chevy learn anything from Ford's mistake with the new Taurus about pricing a car too high for what it is?
I heard the government is going to be giving some kind of big subsidy to people who buy plug-in electric hybrids, so maybe that is what Chevy is counting on. I guess the first bailout wasn't enough
#14500 of 20239 Re: Chevy Volt [syitalian25]
Mar 28, 2010 (3:33 pm)
the government has provided incentive to purchase new technology for years, the Volt and others like are no different.
are you going to complain if Hyundai gets a tax break for their first hybrid model?
#14501 of 20239 Re: Chevy Volt [syitalian25]
Mar 28, 2010 (4:51 pm)
If you took the average income of Prius buyers I think you would find that it is a lot higher than other people buying similarly priced cars. Lots of hollywood types drive the Prius for both an eco stance and/or a status symbol. It's not up to me to judge anybody's motives.
From what I've read, there is expected to be a very large rebate/subsidy/tax credit or whatever which will bring the net price on the Volt down close to 30k which would entice a lot of people.
A concern for me is that these types of vehicles seem to not live up to expectations when you factor in extreme winter conditions. It's kind of like having a convertible in the upper midwest. Just not worth it to most people.
#14502 of 20239 Re: Chevy Volt [syitalian25]
Mar 28, 2010 (5:29 pm)
>eard the government is going to be giving some kind of big subsidy to people who buy plug-in electric hybrids, so maybe that is what Chevy is counting on. I guess the first bailout wasn't enough
It sounds like you are against giving incentives from the taxpayers to buy cars. I suppose that applied to the huge incentives for the Prius?
> I guess the first bailout wasn't enough
Would you rather have had the companies go backrupt and quit producing and quit buying parts from thousands of supply companies throughout this country?
#14503 of 20239 Re: Chevy Volt [explorerx4]
Mar 28, 2010 (5:33 pm)
I read that the government is giving a $7500 rebate. The difference is, Hyundai wouldn't charge $40K for a $30K car, so the rebate would just be icing on the cake and make a ridiculous bargain. Chevy is just raising the price by $7500 from what the car is worth (and that is arguably high as well but we will have to wait to see the full list of feature and specs), then letting the government pick up the tab so they can pocket $7500 per car basically. What is Chevy going to do if/when the government subsidy goes away? Just hope there are enough Eco-conscious celebrities to buy these things? I would hope they are not short-sighted enough to produce a car that costs more than most people are willing to pay for it.. that's just bad business.
What's next? $40K Toyota Camry-EV? The whole Volt is based on the Cruze, which slots in below the Malibu in their lineup. Maybe we can look forward to a $40K Ford Focus EV as well then.