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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#14490 of 20187 Re: 2010 Sonata [thegraduate]
Mar 27, 2010 (4:10 pm)
I'm currently in the market for a 2-3 year old midsized family sedan for around $13,000 - $15,000 before the extended warranty and taxes. I had the 2009 Hyundai Sonata GLS, 2008 Honda Accord LX, and 2008 Ford Fusion SEL on my list, though I'm still flexible as to model and engine now. I got to test drive the Sonata and Fusion today- both with the V6 and in my price range. It was the GLS and SEL model, respectively.
After reading online reviews of these vehicles, I was expecting them to feel quite different from one another, but after test driving them, I found they were far more similar than I expected. I only got to drive on a relatively straight, yet bumpy highway though, so I don't think I got to assess each car as well as I could have. Still, most of my driving is on the highway, so I guess it doesn't matter as much.
I'm coming out of a 1998 Neon, so needless to say, I found driving both cars quite a pleasure. Some of my impressions:
- I found the Sonata's driver's seat more comfortable than the Ford's despite the Ford having power lumbar support. The Sonata's seat was nice and fairly firm, which I liked.
- The Hyundai and Ford rode fairly similarly, though I think the Sonata was just a bit more absorbant.
- Despite having the smaller engine, the Ford's throttle response was more instant, and I liked that. However, the engine was noticeably louder and not as smooth as the Sonata's.
- I didn't really get a great chance to see how well the vehicles handle, but the Sonata's steering was firmer than I remembered it being in the 2006 model I tested a few years back. Sure, it's not as firm or natural-feeling as in my 1998 Neon or the Ford Fusion, but as with the ride quality, I guess I didn't notice as big a difference in the steering as I expected.
- The Sonata's interior was far nicer than the Fusion's. My mom came with me on the test drive and noted that the Fusion's interior reminded her of my 1998 Dodge Neon's in that it was fairly chintzy, and I'd have to agree.
Of the two, I prefer the Sonata a bit more. It was a 2009 GLS with a V6, had 9,000 miles, and was $14,676. However, after taxes and the extended warranty, the price rose to a little over $18,000, which seemed very high, definitely above what I'm able to pay. The extended warranty was only an estimate, though it was valued at $2,000. I know we could have done much, much better, but my main goal was just to get a feel for the two vehicles and have a rough idea of the car-buying process.
I think the 2008 Honda Accord LX would be my most desired car of the group of cars I'm considering because I'm going to have to keep the car for about 5 years, and it's the newest design of the bunch. I've seen some on Carsoup that have around 35-40k miles for just under $15,000, and I'm just fine with that mileage since I don't drive that much. So I'll test drive an '08 Accord LX and if I can't afford that, I'll try out an '07 to see how it compares with the Sonata.
#14491 of 20187 Re: 2010 Sonata [serenity185]
Mar 27, 2010 (6:51 pm)
I saw an ad for the last of the 2010 Sonatas for 14.5k. Why not go for one of those?
#14492 of 20187 Re: 2010 Sonata [benjaminh]
Mar 27, 2010 (8:30 pm)
For sure! Also, for the same money as a slightly used Accord LX one can get a 2009 Sonata GLS with the power seat and moonroof package--much more equipment than the Accord LX, and with a longer bumper-to-bumper warranty than the Accord's before the cost of an extended warranty.
#14493 of 20187 Re: One of these might fit the bill... [jeffyscott]
Mar 28, 2010 (4:08 am)
Tell me, what is your source of information that says the Volt won't ship on time?
#14494 of 20187 Re: 2010 Sonata [serenity185]
Mar 28, 2010 (4:26 am)
Hyundai is offering thousands of dollars in rebates on their 2010/2009 Sonata models, if you are seriously considering paying $18K I'd see what you could negotiate a new 2009 Sonata GLS V6 down to. The MSRP is only like $23K, and Hyundai is giving 5K in rebates, if you got the dealer to give you another $2500 you'd be at the price you are looking for and driving a new one.
Also, that extended warranty sounds like a ripoff - It was only $1200 on the new Sonata, how are they charging $2000 for a 2009? On this site they have the 2010 GLS V6 for $15,815, at least you could print it out and use it to negotiate with your dealer. http://cars.overstock.com/configurator.html?makeId=2235&modelId=443&upfrontPrici- ng=Y
#14495 of 20187 Re: One of these might fit the bill... [fushigi]
Mar 28, 2010 (5:38 am)
He said they would be shipping this fall.
#14496 of 20187 Re: 2010 Sonata [syitalian25]
Mar 28, 2010 (7:18 am)
Are there actually Hyundai dealers with 2009s left? Most dealers are finishing out the 2010 Sonatas. There may be a few new ones left but even a used 2009 V6 LTD for around 14k would be a good deal and still have plenty of btb warranty left.
#14497 of 20187 Re: 2010 Sonata [thegraduate]
Mar 28, 2010 (7:41 am)
Hey grad, just curious. Are you still looking or did you decide to wait for another day?
#14498 of 20187 Re: One of these might fit the bill... [akirby]
Mar 28, 2010 (8:20 am)
My bad; the original was from acdii: "We shall see, that is if it ever hits production. A lot good a concept car does going up Pikes Peak if they can't get it onto dealer lots." Seems to be in denial that the product will come out at all, let alone on time.
Mar 28, 2010 (12:06 pm)
I don't see the Volt selling too well if they don't get the price down into the $25K-$30K range. People with $40,000 to spend on a car are not the ones most concerned with fuel economy and definitely not the ones that want to be bothered with the pain of owning an electric plug-in (for the most part). Didn't Chevy learn anything from Ford's mistake with the new Taurus about pricing a car too high for what it is?
I heard the government is going to be giving some kind of big subsidy to people who buy plug-in electric hybrids, so maybe that is what Chevy is counting on. I guess the first bailout wasn't enough