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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#14300 of 18200 Re: Mid-sized roundup from the auto show [m6user] by backy

Mar 13, 2010 (5:46 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Mar 13, 2010 5:30 pm)
I did see a base Altima at a Nissan dealer the other day and thought the dash didn't look nearly as nice as that in the Mazda6, Sonata, or Legacy. The cloth was nothing to write home about, either. (Maybe that's why Nissan only had the high-end trim on display?) The leather in the Sonata is pretty nice IMO--softer than in prior years. The leather in my low-bucks 2004 Elantra isn't very soft, but it's perforated and has held up well.
 
The Accord LX manages only 31 mpg and I'll bet it's a much lighter car than the Regal. But 30 mpg for the DI in the Regal isn't very good compared to the 35 mpg in the more powerful Sonata.

#14301 of 18200 Re: Mid-sized roundup from the auto show [backy] by smarty666

Mar 13, 2010 (6:36 pm)

Replying to: backy (Mar 13, 2010 5:46 pm)
very true about the Altima; I like the car but the cloth in the base and mid level models is nothing to write home about; the leather interior is much better and nearly transforms the cabin; plus if you get the leather you get better made leather and vinyl padding on the door and armrests!
 
but as you pointed out you have to go with top level models for that!

#14302 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [packer3] by kdshapiro

Mar 13, 2010 (8:47 pm)

Replying to: packer3 (Mar 12, 2010 10:04 pm)
There are things people should know how to do. Putting the car in neutral at any speed should be the first. I learned that in drivers ed. This guy in SD is going to turn out to be a fake story.

#14303 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [kdshapiro] by lilengineerboy

Mar 14, 2010 (6:17 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 13, 2010 8:47 pm)
There are things people should know how to do. Putting the car in neutral at any speed should be the first. I learned that in drivers ed. This guy in SD is going to turn out to be a fake story.
 
The Prius, if I recall correctly, is a shift by wire car. You can move the little joysticky thing where ever you want, but unless the body control module tells the powertrain control module that someone played with the lever, nothing is gonna happen.

#14304 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [lilengineerboy] by kdshapiro

Mar 14, 2010 (9:22 am)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 14, 2010 6:17 am)
I was listening to the radio, they had a piece about Dan Edmunds using a 2004 Prius in an attempt to recreate the issue.
 
1. It was reported when the brake was depressed, acceleration ceased.
2. There was no issue in putting the car into neutral.
 
You decide.

#14305 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [lilengineerboy] by mickeyrom

Mar 14, 2010 (9:55 am)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 14, 2010 6:17 am)
That is what I have been telling my wife since all this has blown up.Well, all we can do is hope for the best.

#14306 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [kdshapiro] by backy

Mar 14, 2010 (10:42 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 13, 2010 8:47 pm)
It appears that is indeed the case...
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100314/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius

#14307 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [kdshapiro] by fushigi

Mar 14, 2010 (4:32 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 14, 2010 9:22 am)
Edmunds car didn't experience the glitch. That does not mean the glitch does not exist. Correlation does not imply causation.

#14308 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [fushigi] by kdshapiro

Mar 14, 2010 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: fushigi (Mar 14, 2010 4:32 pm)
That doesn't mean this guy is being truthful and that every driver error is a faulty car. There are reason when you take out a large insurance policy the insurance company does a thorough check. This guy has the red flags.

#14309 of 18200 Re: No Matter What [kdshapiro] by acdii

Mar 15, 2010 (5:49 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 14, 2010 9:22 am)
I owned a 2007 Prius, so I know the controls pretty well. There are 3 ways to get into neutral, first, and unless you have read the manual, you would not know this, to put into neutral, move the shift lever to the right and hold it. Second way, press the park button, it will not engage park until the speed is below 3 MPH. The third way, press and hold the power button for 3-5 seconds, it kills power to everything, but does not engage park until the car falls below 3 MPH, and will not lock the steering wheel until a door is opened.
 
So if you press the brake, it kills power to the drive train, well, it was quite obvious that did not happen with the runaway since he was riding the brakes hard. Another thing about Prius, they have a very sensitive traction control, the main reason I got rid of it. The TC on the Prius cuts all power to the wheels for about 2 seconds when a wheel slips. There is a good chance that if he was really pushing down on the brakes and hit a bump, the wheel hop would have cut power.
 
Just because they can't reproduce it, doesn't mean it didn't happen, and what they now need to do is figure out if it is a hoax, how did he do it without modifying the car? Since he hasn't asked for any money, would the only reason he did it was to avoid a speeding ticket? The question I have is, did he call 911 before any police were near him, or did he call after he had seen a cop and thought he got caught speeding? If the former, then I seriously doubt he would have faked this.

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