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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#13932 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [wolverinejoe80]
Feb 23, 2010 (11:42 am)
Sonata is now the segment leader in every category. bow down to the king.
My Mazda store is next to a Hyundai store, and on Saturday I had 2 people walk over after driving the new Sonata and were unimpressed. They said it drove very sloppy. The really funny thing is they both ended up buying a new Mazda6.
I was very shocked at their impressions of the new Sonata, especially after what I have read about it.
Bow down? Not so fast...
#13934 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [aviboy97]
Feb 23, 2010 (4:23 pm)
Don't get me wrong, Hyundai makes some nice products, the new Sonata is eye catching but those people you mentioned who test drove, I came to the same conclusion after I test drove the Genesis, it drove very sloppy and not sporty enough for me! Sounds like the Sonata rides and handles similar to that according those people you spoke with!
Trust me, the Mazda 6 and Altima ride and handle much better than the Sonata does in regards to better feedback and control! It all depends on what your looking for in a car! For some, the Sonata will fit the bill fine who are looking for a nice capable car but don't want that sporty nature or flare to it!
#13935 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [aviboy97]
Feb 23, 2010 (7:42 pm)
Probably drives like a Camry, I too would have walked to the M6 since it is very close to the Fusion. Give it a year and see how well it sells though, if people who like how a Camry handles drive it and like it, it will sell well.
#13936 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [aviboy97]
Feb 23, 2010 (8:52 pm)
I wonder what trim level they drove. I could see the GLS or Limited feeling "sloppy" compared to a Mazda6, but probably with trade-off for ride smoothness. I think the SE would be a better match for the Mazda6.
#13937 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [acdii]
Feb 24, 2010 (6:02 am)
Not so fast, the Camry drives real nice. I rented one and put 1000 miles on it in a week and absolutely loved the way it drove. Got a combined mileage for the week of 30 mpg. It wasn't BMW tight, but sloppy...no way.
#13938 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [kdshapiro]
Feb 24, 2010 (7:01 am)
Camry drives real nice
It may drive nice, but the problem is how do get it to stop.
#13939 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [revit]
Feb 24, 2010 (8:13 am)
I would get the car in a heartbeat, not really worried.
#13940 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [kdshapiro]
Feb 24, 2010 (9:02 am)
Drive one that has 30K on it, then go drive a Fusion, one drives like a rowboat, the other handles as if on rails. If you like soft sloppy rides, that's fine, if you like a car that can take a turn without feeling like it will tip over, that's not a Camry. The Fusion/M6 can take a turn at 30MPH that a Camry can barely take at 20. That is what the difference is between the two. A curve that a Camry can just about handle at 50, the Fusion/ Mazda6 can take at 65. An undulating road, the Camry would be all over it, the Fusion will be steady. I know this, I have driven both and it is part of the reason I dumped the Camry for a Fusion, the other part was the poor quality of the Toyota.
#13941 of 20244 Re: autoblog gets well over 35mpg for 2011 sonata [acdii]
Feb 24, 2010 (10:17 am)
agreed, don't get me wrong, the Camry has a nice comfortable ride in regards to road feel and not letting much into the cabin but it had trouble with the suspension being too soft in regard to wallowing up and down which yields very sloopy/poor handling!
the Fusion and Altima to the best job in the segment of finding just the right balance between a comfortable ride that gives you a little feedback, but not too much, while at the same time having a competent cornering and handling ability and response! the Mazda 6 has similar if not slightly better handling than the Fusion and Altima but the 6, at least I feel has too much of a firm/harsh ride compared to the Fusion and Altima! so all in all the Fusion and Altima do the best in regards to having the perfect ride/handling balance of their competition!
I would rank the mid-size category as follows for having the best and worst ride/handling balance!
1) Fusion/Altima (the best balance)
2) Mazda 6 (less comfortable ride, great handling)
3) Sonata (in the middle of the pack in avg ride/handling)
4) Accord ( good ride, so-so handling at times)
5) Camry (best ride, lousy handling)
6) Malibu (so so ride, depending on model and not that great in handling)