Last post on May 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#13453 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [backy]
Dec 23, 2009 (7:11 pm)
"* The rear of the Fusion, which IMO looks like something from a Daewoo design studio and not nearly as attractive as the rear of the pre-refresh car. "
LOL Like said above, it's in the eye of the beholder. When I see the rear of pre-2010 Fusions, it looks like a ricer kid replaced the tail-lights. I think the 2010 is way better than the older Fusions. But it's great we disagree, or as I've stated before, we'd all be driving the same car.
#13454 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [backy]
Dec 23, 2009 (10:11 pm)
"If you want ugly, try taking:
* The grill of the Camry, with the booger hanging out of its nose.
* The side of the Sebring (or Avenger, your choice), which always make me think, "These cars were designed in this decade?"
* The rear of the Fusion, which IMO looks like something from a Daewoo design studio and not nearly as attractive as the rear of the pre-refresh car.
* The wheels of the Sonata LX, which are way too fussy for my taste and look like a vent from a Weber classic grill."
1. The 2010 Camry is not bad looking. The front grill has been re-designed for 2010 and it looks much nicer than the previous 2 years. The Camry looks almost like a smaller version of the Lexus.
2. I cannot speak for the Sebring and the Fusion because I don't care for these 2 particular cars. I personally do NOT like the style of them.
3. The new 2011 Sonata is NOT ugly. It is a VERY stylish car. It looks almost exactly like a flagship Mercedes Benz. Plus the interior is very well made with high quality materials.
The front of the VW Jetta looks too plain. I don't like all of the chrome that VW placed around the front bumper. Also, the rear end of the Jetta looks like the rear end of the Corolla.
The ONLY VW that I do like is the Jetta CC. The Jetta CC looks almost like the flagship Mercedes Benz. I love the stretched out look and styling of the Jetta CC. I also love its interior. The Jetta CC is manufactured in Eben, Germany and has excellent quality fit and finish.
On the other hand, I do not think that the regular Jetta is built in Germany. It's either built in the USA, Brazil or in Mexico where the quality is inferior to the 100% made in Germany quality that the Jetta CC has.
#13455 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [tlong]
Dec 23, 2009 (10:22 pm)
1 - GM and Ford are not making profit so nothing is going anywhere
Revenue, not profit. Revenue pays salaries of engineers and designers located in multiple locations. Buying an vehicle made by a "domestic" OEM supports engineering and design employees.
It also pays suppliers and vendors with strong presence in the US.
#13456 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [gtgtcobra]
Dec 23, 2009 (10:44 pm)
It is not the "Jetta CC". It's official name is just "CC" but it is a derivative of the Passat. I believe all Jetttas are made in Mexico except maybe the 2.0 turbo Wolfsburg model.
#13457 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [m6user]
Dec 24, 2009 (4:44 am)
The CC is a beautiful car. But, have you tried to get into the back seat of one of them? The back seat entry is "vertically-challenged" much like many of the new designs. Form follows function - not; in this case function follows form.
#13458 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [colloquor]
Dec 24, 2009 (5:57 am)
Maybe that's what they mean by "4-door coupe"...it's got 4 doors, but it is still difficult to get into the back seat .
#13459 of 18209 Re: Two Choices Only [tallman1]
Dec 24, 2009 (5:58 am)
This is a fun place to discuss cars.
In the end, we went with a 2010 Altima V6 3.5 with the sports, audio and premium package. It just fit us better and was more fun for us to drive. Plan on getting 10+ years and will be back in about 3, when my husband gets new car fever again.
I'm sure I'll be at the Detroit Auto Show in 2010' love to see the cars coming up.
I'll report on our Nissan. Happy 2010 to all!
#13460 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [colloquor]
Dec 24, 2009 (8:36 am)
I'll be interested to see how entry into the back seat of the new Sonata will be. It has a little of that "coupe" styling. Haven't really seen any negative comments about the back seat entry from the reviews I've read but then there is so much new to write about on the '11 Sonata the ease of entry into the back seat may just not have been written about.
I'll check it out when I go to the Chicago auto show in about 6 weeks.
#13461 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [m6user]
Dec 24, 2009 (9:44 am)
Reply to self: Found a reference to the ease of entry question for the new Sonata in a review on cars.com as follows:
"The sleek new exterior design has consequences for backseat passenger space. While legroom is good — it's close to what you'll find in a Camry or Accord — there's not much extra headroom for taller adults, and those same people might find that they have to dip their head when exiting to avoid bumping it on the headliner."
#13462 of 18209 Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [m6user]
Dec 24, 2009 (10:43 am)
That's publisher or magazine speak for "it's kind of difficult to get out of." If you look at the rear door window of the CC and the 2011 Sonata, they look quite similar. Yes, I think a 4-door coupe is probably the best way to describe both. As I previously mentioned, the CC is a beautiful car, and from photos, the new Sonata looks very nice as well. But, one has to live with them too, and I'd rather have a 4-door sedan that's easy for adults to enter and exit. However, this paradigm is counter to most of the designers' desires these days.