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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#13316 of 20239 Re: Nissan adds cheap GPS [jeffyscott]
Dec 02, 2009 (10:54 am)
I'm retired now and am taking more car trips and I use a portable gps unit. It keeps me company to some degree and helps a lot when I get off the beaten path and don't want to keep stopping to read maps. Kind of fun actually. Comes in handy when you're looking up ahead for certain gas stations or restaurants near exits. Kind of a toy I admit, but as toys go it's fairly inexpensive. I also use a portable, bluetooth speaker for my cell. It works well on trips when I take advantage of the drive time on weekends and call relatives and talk for an hour or so on the freeway handsfree.
It's kind of a pain hiding the portable gps unit all the time when you stop though. That's why I'm looking to get everything integrated in my next vehicle. Not necessary but just something I would like to have. I usually keep cars for 7-10 years. How many more new cars am I going to buy in my lifetime....might as well have what I want within reason. And you're right, $2000 is not within reason IMO.
Altima is still a car of interest to me and that's why I'm wondering if anybody knows about the new Nissan gps unit possibly being available in that. Like I said, I don't think it will be but I can hope.
#13317 of 20239 Re: Nissan adds cheap GPS [m6user]
Dec 02, 2009 (11:29 am)
We have a TomTom unit that fits very nicely (via round rubber base) into a drink holder, then plugs into the outlet in the console. Cost under $100 a year ago, now I see in Black Friday sales they can be had for under $70. Just a basic nav unit but does its job well, and we can use it in any car. So I can see why Nissan is taking this step to reduce the price of in-dash GPS in their lower-end cars. They can still make a profit on them and many more people might buy it at the lower price point. I'd never go for the $2000-ish factory GPS systems--not enough value there for me. Also Bluetooth is increasingly becoming standard or a low-cost option. Note it's standard on the Forte (mid-sized interior!!) and I think Hyundai said Bluetooth would be standard on the 2011 Sonata, but I'm not sure on that. I expect within 2-3 years we'll see Bluetooth standard on nearly every mid-sized family sedan, except the "value leader" trims ala Mazda6 SV.
#13319 of 20239 2011 US Sonata unveiled at LA Auto Show
Dec 02, 2009 (11:55 am)
Don't know if you can still get in or how much is left but there is a webcast presentation of the 2011 Sonata unveiling going on right now at
#13320 of 20239 Re: Nov and YTD sales.. [jeffyscott]
Dec 02, 2009 (12:58 pm)
Selling to rental fleets is not, I think, in itself a big negative. It is when the sales to the rental fleets are at very low prices and then the fleets can resell 1-2 year old cars at very cheap prices.
I think you hit it on the head here. I've gained or lost interest in a vehicle after I rented it. I also bought a year old Taurus early in the decade for $10,500 or about $5 grand less than a new one. It wasn't a bad car either, but did start having too many nickel and dime issues after around 60K. I believe the newer Ford's have improved in longevity though.
#13321 of 20239 Re: Nissan adds cheap GPS [m6user]
Dec 02, 2009 (1:03 pm)
You can go though a lot of portable GPS before you spend what an integrated one costs. Also, GPS updates are rather expensive if you're keeping it for 6 or 7 years. Tom Tom are decent units. I think Garmin are better, but they tend to run a bit more.
#13322 of 20239 Re: Nissan adds cheap GPS [backy]
Dec 02, 2009 (1:21 pm)
I think Hyundai said Bluetooth would be standard on the 2011 Sonata, but I'm not sure on that
Your memory is correct. Following is from the Hyundai release at the LA auto show
First vehicle in its class to offer a Bluetooth hands-free phone system standard
It's also interesting that the SE model will have 2 more of each hp/ft torque due to dual exhaust. Wonder what could be done with even less backpressure down the road? Also, they hint at bringing a turbocharged version of the 2.4 on line down the road, possibly late 2010. No hp estimates but I would guess about 240. They get 210 out of the 2.0 in the Genesis.
#13323 of 20239 Re: Nissan adds cheap GPS [m6user]
Dec 02, 2009 (4:42 pm)
Note to self: Read press releases thoroughly!
The Turbo that the Sonata is going to get is the 2.0 not a 2.4 as I mentioned previously. This engine in the Genesis coupe makes 210 ponies. Doesn't seem like that would be so exciting versus 200 in the SE version unless the torque is out of sight.
#13324 of 20239 Re: Nissan adds cheap GPS [m6user]
Dec 02, 2009 (5:42 pm)
Yeah, but you get those cool dual exhausts too!
Now that I am driving around in my new (for me) 2007 Sonata with all of 162 ponies, which is paltry by current standards in this class, I can say I have no want for power. I have yet to need to floor it. It's actually too quick/fast for DW--she has a hard time keeping it under the speed limit. So 200 (or 198) ponies in a lighter car, with more torque... not a problem.
#13325 of 20239 Re: Nissan adds cheap GPS [backy]
Dec 02, 2009 (9:00 pm)
I do have dual exhausts on my '07 Mazda6 I4 with all of about 156hp and man do they make it fly. Don't really have a need for more power but given similar price at time of purchase and 35mpg, I will take the 198 hp all day long. Good luck with your new car.