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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Edmunds TCO by cannon3
Sep 06, 2009 (2:47 pm)
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Don't trust it. I own a 2006 Ford Fusion SEL V6 and have had no repair costs, my maintenance costs have not come close to what Edmunds says, I also paid no interest on my loans for this automobile. My insurance is not even close to what Edmunds says also. I know it is supposed to be some kind of "average" Beings I belong to 3 Fusion boards across the internet. I posted these numbers and noone has come even close to what Edmunds says for "costs". TCO means nothing.
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Re: A few new sneak peak pics of the '11 Sonata [tenpin288] by wayne52
Sep 06, 2009 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Aug 31, 2009 3:06 pm)

I think the 2011 pix of the sonata show a great improvement over previous sonatas. However, I think it now looks like an ugly version of the camry.
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Re: A few new sneak peak pics of the '11 Sonata [wayne52] by mickeyrom
Sep 06, 2009 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: wayne52 (Sep 06, 2009 3:23 pm)

Ugly is a "great improvement"?
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Re: Edmunds TCO [cannon3] by explorerx4
Sep 06, 2009 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: cannon3 (Sep 06, 2009 2:47 pm)

i have an 07 fusion with about 17.5k. i get free oil changes from the dealer. other than that i have paid for 2 tire rotations, an air filter, and new wipers.
how many miles do you have on yours and what have you had done?
i am mostly wondering about tires and brakes.
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Re: A few new sneak peak pics of the '11 Sonata [mickeyrom] by wayne52
Sep 07, 2009 (3:48 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Sep 06, 2009 4:06 pm)

I think hyundai and kia have used the Bulgarian women's olympic weightlifting team for designing their cars in the past. Or perhaps I could say Hyundai/Kia have done for auto design what Abdul the tentmaker has done for women's lingerie. Yes, I think this is a great improvement over the previous sonata, but to me it looks like an ugly camry. I hope they've worked out the suspension issues on this one - seems to be a perennial problem for them.
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Re: A few new sneak peak pics of the '11 Sonata [wayne52] by mickeyrom
Sep 07, 2009 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: wayne52 (Sep 07, 2009 3:48 am)

I am 73 years old, so I have owned many cars of different brands.My current car is a 2006.5 KIA Optima EX and I have had complete strangers stop me and compliment the styling of my KIA.Hardly ugly, so you have to remember that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I actually can't think of a single brand that I think as ugly.The hyundai Sonata of the 2006 time frame were even better looking than the Optima,but the Optima has a better looking dash and center stack.
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Re: A few new sneak peak pics of the '11 Sonata [wayne52] by backy
Sep 07, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: wayne52 (Sep 07, 2009 3:48 am)

"Ugly Camry" is redundant.
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Re: A few new sneak peak pics of the '11 Sonata [mickeyrom] by m6user
Sep 07, 2009 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Sep 06, 2009 4:06 pm)

I'm not fond of how a Camry drives as it's a little too soft for me and I think the quality control and material qualityof the interior has declined over the past five years or so, but I personally don't think it looks that bad from strictly an outside styling viewpoint. The car I think I like the least is the Accord styling. In fact most of Honda's recent styling of all their vehicles just hasn't been that good compared to the rest.
 
I personally think that a lot of people just like to jump on the bandwagon and say the Camry is ugly because they have been ranked so highly and #1 in sales for so many years. Kind of like rooting for the underdog. I agree it has it's faults but a lot of people here seem to relish in deriding it every chance they get.
 
I've never owned one but I also wonder how many that crucify it so have either.
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Talk about a disappointment by backy
Sep 07, 2009 (6:56 am)
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When the Suzuki Kizashi concept was unveiled, I thought it was a great looking car. But now that the actual production car has seen the light of day, all I can do is yawn and try to figure out why anyone would buy this car instead of one of the other mid-sizers in the market.
 
The concept:

 
The actual car:

 
More photos: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/30/2010-suzuki-kizashi-sized-up-against-the-comp- etition/
 
The one thing I like about the Kizashi is that it's smaller than other mid-sizers. So if the interior is roomy, that is a plus in my book.
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Re: A few new sneak peak pics of the '11 Sonata [m6user] by backy
Sep 07, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Sep 07, 2009 6:43 am)

I'm not fond of how a Camry drives as it's a little too soft for me and I think the quality control and material qualityof the interior has declined over the past five years or so...
 
If that's not "deriding" the Camry, I don't know what is. But I agree with both comments. I think the Camry is still a competent mid-sizer, especially with the improvements for 2010, but not a leader in the class as it once was. For people looking for a mid-sized sedan with a soft, quiet ride above all else, it's as good a choice as any.

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