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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Ford pushing for #1 [backy] by ajbrown1
Jun 16, 2009 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 11, 2009 12:25 pm)

Hey backy any idea why you were sent that "special invitation" or how I might get one? Thanks
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Re: Ford pushing for #1 [ajbrown1] by backy
Jun 16, 2009 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: ajbrown1 (Jun 16, 2009 1:35 pm)

I have no idea other than I have test-driven the Fusion and Milan, and have test-driven some used cars at other Ford/Mercury dealerships, so at least a few dealers have me in their database. But companies can get mailing lists in all sorts of ways.
 
Also my regular razor is the Fusion. That must be it.
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Re: Ford pushing for #1 [ajbrown1] by jeff_h
Jun 16, 2009 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: ajbrown1 (Jun 16, 2009 1:35 pm)

I got one by going to the fordvehicles.com web site and going to the Fusion area and requesting a brochure be mailed to me. Instead of the big brochure I got a mini-brochure and that $750 coupon.
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Re: Ford pushing for #1 [jeff_h] by explorerx4
Jun 16, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: jeff_h (Jun 16, 2009 4:10 pm)

that's how it's done.
my wife originally was looking at a lincoln, so i requested a lincoln brochure.
then she decided she wanted to look at fords, so i requested a ford brochure.
we ended up buying a ford.
we wanted the lincoln, but the dealer played too many games.
we decided to buy a ford from a place where we had a better experience.
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Re: Ford pushing for #1 [explorerx4] by berri
Jun 17, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jun 16, 2009 5:55 pm)

we wanted the lincoln, but the dealer played too many games.
we decided to buy a ford from a place where we had a better experience.

 
...and you essentially got the same thing at a much lower price and less depreciation! Also, I've always found that if a dealer plays games in the sales dept. they likely do the same thing in service. You were wise to run.
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Re: Ford pushing for #1 [berri] by explorerx4
Jun 17, 2009 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Jun 17, 2009 10:31 am)

lincoln doesn't have a comparable model to what we bought, but i think it's ok.
we both agreed, our next vehicle will probably be a lincoln.
tuition is working out to be higher than we planned.
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Re: Ford pushing for #1 [explorerx4] by akirby
Jun 18, 2009 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jun 17, 2009 4:30 pm)

I normally prefer Lincolns even if they're just clones (like the Aviator over the Explorer). You do get better sound deadening and usually better quality interiors plus more amenities like cooled seats. But when I looked at the Zephyr back in 2005 I did not like the dash layout and the other differences weren't enough to justify the price difference. Same when we looked at the MKX last year - I actually liked the Edge styling better and the only real difference that was meaningful to us was the cooled seats which my wife got used to in the Aviator. But it wasn't worth the $6K difference.
 
Now that Ford has the core brand almost back on its feet (with the Fiesta, new Focus and new Explorer due out in the next 12-18 months) I expect Lincoln to get all new sheetmetal (the MKS doesn't share any sheetmetal with the Taurus - not even the doors or roofline), unique and more upscale interiors and features and eventually a new RWD flagship platform. Mulally has the right plan - it will just take a few years to get there.
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Toyota owns Subaru by cannon3
Jun 21, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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In a Motor Trend article there was an article about Subaru and Toyota. What Toyota will probably do with Subaru over the next 5 - 10 years. Probably going to see more Toyota parts/engines/transmissions/mechanicals in Subaru. Subaru will retain its AWD namesake. Toyota may share more of the AWD systems from Subaru in more of its models. Basically Subaru will become Toyota. Because of less $$ for R&D and new vehicle introductions, Subaru will become Toyota.
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Choice by cannon3
Jun 21, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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We have some friends who's son (26 years of age) chose a 2010 Ford Fusion, 4cyl manual gear box SE version over a Volkswagon Jetta. He knew I had a 2006 and wanted to compare and talk about them. I asked him why he chose a Ford over a Volkswagon product? His first comments were road feel and the way the Fusion drove. Second was styling. My personal thoughts were, could Ford be turning the corner with the younger crowd with the Fusion/Milan?
 
Any younger on here want to comment? Say the 30 and under crowd?
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Re: Toyota owns Subaru [cannon3] by lilengineerboy
Jun 21, 2009 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: cannon3 (Jun 21, 2009 6:37 pm)

In a Motor Trend article there was an article about Subaru and Toyota. What Toyota will probably do with Subaru over the next 5 - 10 years. Probably going to see more Toyota parts/engines/transmissions/mechanicals in Subaru. Subaru will retain its AWD namesake. Toyota may share more of the AWD systems from Subaru in more of its models. Basically Subaru will become Toyota. Because of less $$ for R&D and new vehicle introductions, Subaru will become Toyota
 
So we have a profitable niche manufacturer that is gaining market share as the number of vehicles sold is plummeting, and Toyota decides its a good time to implement their "one size fits most" policy...very interesting.

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