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Replying to: m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:55 am) |
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jun 10, 2009 7:27 am)  Will be interesting to see if this new, larger Legacy with a back seat suitable for adult passengers can grab more than a miniscule portion of the mid-sized market, in which it is an afterthought. I mean, Toyota sells about twice as many Camrys in the US in a month as Subaru sells vehicles. 
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Replying to: backy (Jun 10, 2009 8:45 am) I don't understand the race to be bland though. Subaru will never be Toyota, nor will Ford. Subaru would do better to be more like BMW, lower volume, higher mix, higher profit margin (because they are actually cars people want and are willing to pay for, instead of being lowest price bidder). Our '05 Legacy Wagon base 5 speed has been a lot of fun. The back seat is tight, especially with the baby/child seat back there but it does offer a great deal of utility, reasonable power and mileage, and a fantastic driving experience. Of course, Subaru no longer makes that vehicle, so they are no longer on my shopping list. I hope it lasts as long as its reputation suggests!
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 10, 2009 9:00 am) Quoted for agreement. I personally don't think Subaru (or Mazda or VW for that matter) has to sell 40K sedans per month to be successful. In fact, I see them filling a niche that includes people that actually ENJOY driving and doesn't consider their car as "just another appliance" like a toaster. Back to the Legacy: The pics that were released a few months ago weren't impressive, but the Edmunds article showed some decent angles. The rear end still looks a little generic, and the headlights still scream Sebring, but I've got more hope that it does look better in person than in photos, something I couldn't say about the concept shown earlier this year. The interior IMO is a HUGE improvement over the current model. I am intrigued by the blue gauges (as well as in the Fusion Sport), and it looks to be more driver-oriented than the current model as well. Of course, I'll wait and see it in person (and take a test-drive) until I can make a verdict, but I've got more hope than I did before on Subaru getting it right... |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 10, 2009 9:00 am) Actually, that is not too far fetched a scenario...Subaru being more like Toyota.  Uniqueness (ala boxer engine) has its good points, but it cost money--which is in short supply with low sales volumes. |
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I got a "special invitation" in the mail today: $750 off any Ford, Mercury, or Lincoln in addition to all other offers. Good on the 2009 and 2010 Fusion and Milan, et. al. Looks like Ford is pulling out all the stops to grab market share while its major competitors are struggling. Unfortunately, the invitation came about two months too late for me, but had it come earlier I might be in a closeout-priced 2009 Fusion or Milan now--I might have been able to snap one up for around $13k with the $750 off.
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Replying to: backy (Jun 11, 2009 12:25 pm) |
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Replying to: backy (Jun 11, 2009 12:25 pm)
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Replying to: ajbrown1 (Jun 16, 2009 1:35 pm) Also my regular razor is the Fusion. That must be it.
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