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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: How can they afford to do that? [bwia] by i360
Jun 05, 2009 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 05, 2009 3:19 am)

Down here in Florida we have a local Honda dealership that offers a lifetime power train warranty on cars bought from them. Their bets are hedged through the reliability of the Honda engine and the fact that almost no one will keep the car that long.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [backy] by bhmr59
Jun 05, 2009 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 05, 2009 2:30 pm)

There was a Hyundai dealership near me in CT (they recently moved a few miles further away) which used to advertise free tire replacement, lifetime engine warranty and (I think) free battery replacement.
 
Sounds good...BUT all service work had to be done at their dealership, otherwise the "goodies" were void. And their service requirements were more demanding than that of Hyundai. Every 3,000 miles you had to change your oil with them (maybe they'd make an exception for a long road trip vacation-like CT to FL). Their service packages A,B,C,D & E (mileage dependent) could get pretty pricey.
 
Plus, they were high priced for buying a new car. In April, '05 the best they could do was split the difference of MSRP & invoice for $550 off MSRP on the Sonata. The $1500 (at the time) rebate would also apply. However, they would then add in an advertising fee of $500...even showed me an invoice with adv. fee printed on it--in bold face type. Dealer fee to be added was $399. The price would have been in excess of MSRP before taxes and registration. I paid $1800 less elsewhere.
 
A buddy bought an '07 Azera Limited w/ Ultimate Pkg at Town Hyundai in NJ for $3,000 less than the CT dealer wanted for a left over '06 Azera w/out Ultimate Pkg. in June, '07. So, all that free stuff certainly did have a price tag.
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Just a matter of time by cannon3
Jun 05, 2009 (6:42 pm)
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that either Hyundia drops the 10yr,100,000 mile warranty because of costs... or Ford/GM/Honda ect all get on the band wagon and add longer warranties to their line-ups.. As consumers lets hope its the latter...
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Re: Just a matter of time [cannon3] by backy
Jun 06, 2009 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: cannon3 (Jun 05, 2009 6:42 pm)

Given the trend, i.e. several car companies including GM, Ford, and Chrysler upping their powertrain warranties after Hyundai/Kia created their long-term warranty, and more recently other companies following Hyunidai's lead on the "assurance" program, I expect it will be the latter. If the 10 year/100k warranty hurt Hyundai/Kia because of costs over the past 10 years, I would expect they'd have killed it by now. In fact, they threatened to do that a couple of years ago, claiming it was no longer necessary as a marketing ploy, but the dealers went ballistic so the warranty stayed.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [i360] by mcdawgg
Jun 07, 2009 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: i360 (Jun 05, 2009 5:07 pm)

A lot of dealers are doing that - our Toyota dealer, Honda, etc.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [mickeyrom] by igozoomzoom
Jun 08, 2009 (1:11 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jun 05, 2009 4:15 am)

Exactly whose lifetime does the Chrysler Lifetime Powertrain Warranty cover- the vehicle's or the company's?
 
Who wants to drive a Chrysler forever anyway? I imagine there would be a rather high rate of owners doing themselves in if they were stuck driving a Chrysler forever!
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100k/Lifetime Powertrain Warranties not Transferrable by igozoomzoom
Jun 08, 2009 (1:24 am)
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A lot of buyers don't realize that almost all of these long-term (100k, Lifetime) warranties aren't transferrable if the car is sold. For example, Hyundai, KIA and Mitsubishi drop from 10-year/100,000 miles to 5-year/60,000 miles if transferred to a second owner during the warranty coverage period. Suzuki is one of the few makes that transfers the full warranty to a second owner.
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Re: 100k/Lifetime Powertrain Warranties not Transferrable [igozoomzoom] by thegraduate
Jun 08, 2009 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jun 08, 2009 1:24 am)

Yep, and frankly, I think a 5 year / 60,000 miles bumper-to-bumper is still darn good. My girlfriend just bought an 07 Santa Fe and has 45k miles and 3 years left on her warranty, all without needing it to be "certified pre-owned" and costing more. Beats the major players by a long shot.
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Re: 100k/Lifetime Powertrain Warranties not Transferrable [thegraduate] by jeffyscott
Jun 09, 2009 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 08, 2009 7:24 pm)

The 10-year/100,000 miles that apparently becomes 5-year/60,000 miles, if transferred to a second owner, is a power train warranty not bumper-to-bumper.
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Re: 100k/Lifetime Powertrain Warranties not Transferrable [jeffyscott] by backy
Jun 09, 2009 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jun 09, 2009 5:47 am)

Actually, in cases like Hyundai, Kia, and Mitsubishi, the 2nd owner gets the remainder of the 5 year/60k bumper-to-bumper warranty, which of course includes the powertrain.

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