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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Could it be?? [cannon3] by backy
Jun 04, 2009 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: cannon3 (Jun 04, 2009 6:02 pm)

Who will come out with the next surprise? Hyundai? Mazda?
 
Well, it won't be Mazda. The 6 was brand new for 2009, so it will be a long time before we see a new design. And the Mazda6 simply won't be able to reach the sales volumes of the Accord or Fulan. The Sonata, OTOH, is being redesigned for the 2011 MY, due out here next year. We already know it will be more of a coupe-ish style ala the CC and will offer a hybrid version. Next out of the gates, though, will be the new, larger Legacy. But Subaru won't be able to compete in volume with the likes of Honda or Toyota either. Then there's the U.S.-built replacement for the Passat coming on the heels of the Legacy and Sonata.
 
One new mid-sizer you forgot is the all-new Suzuki sedan, due in a year or two, which appears to be their first serious entry in this class.
 
Yes, lots of great choices in this class, with "more to come" as they say on The Tonight Show.
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How can they afford to do that? by bwia
Jun 05, 2009 (3:19 am)
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I saw this claim on a Hyundai dealer's website and I am wondering how can they afford to do this?
 
"We are one of New Englands Largest Hyundai Dealership and have the best selection available! The hardest part here won't be finding a car, it will be narrowing it down to just one!
 
All of our clients who purchase new vehicles get a Free 20 year Powertrain Warranty, Free Loaner Vehicles with Service, as well as Free Inspection Stickers for LIFE!
 
We understand you can buy your New Hyundai from anyone, but we want to seperate ourselves and give you FIRST class service and FIRST class satisfaction."
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [bwia] by mickeyrom
Jun 05, 2009 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 05, 2009 3:19 am)

Many dealers give you a loaner while your car is being serviced.Hyundai already has a 100,000 mile ten year warranty on the power train. How many people actually keep their car for 20 years anyway?It's a clever sales ploy,but not completely out of the realm of reality.
How about that lifetime power train warranty that Chrysler has? make twenty years seem short.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [bwia] by jeffyscott
Jun 05, 2009 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 05, 2009 3:19 am)

They are saving money by not spell checking their ads ("seperate")
 
Of course it is not really free, it is just rolled into the price of the vehicles...if they were not giving this stuff away, they would be able to charge less for the cars they sell. Also the free loaner will lead to increased business for their service department.
 
A dealer in my area offers a free used car with every new vehicle purchase. Of course, I don't believe the used vehicle is really free.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [bwia] by acdii
Jun 05, 2009 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 05, 2009 3:19 am)

Who would know reliability and cost of repair better than a dealership? Since they service the cars they sell, they would know what the costs to them would be in the long run based on their current repair records, so that is how they can do it, plus based on the fact most people get rid of the car with 5 years, and less than 100K.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [acdii] by akirby
Jun 05, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: acdii (Jun 05, 2009 4:44 am)

Considering Hyundai has only been selling cars in the U.S. for 23 years, I doubt they have much repair history on 10-20 yr old vehicles. Certainly nothing that would apply to the current vehicles. This offer is based on the unlikelihood that an original owner would keep the car past the factory warranty period.
 
My guess is you could buy such an extended warranty (with the same restrictions) for a few hundred dollars, so the dealer just takes that out of their normal discount. Same with "lifetime" warranties.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [akirby] by bwia
Jun 05, 2009 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jun 05, 2009 6:10 am)

In Massachusetts an inspection sticker is $29 per year and the average daily rental is $44.95. If we figure a minimum of two service calls per year that adds up to $120 per year...Good marketing but that's a big hit on the bottom line.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [bwia] by akirby
Jun 05, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 05, 2009 7:04 am)

Depends on the definition of "Service" - that may only be for warranty repairs.
 
If the average buyer only keeps their vehicle for 5 or 6 years then it's really a moot point. They just build the average extra cost into the prices.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [bwia] by jeffyscott
Jun 05, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 05, 2009 7:04 am)

Just because $45 is the average rental charge to a retail customer, does not mean that this is the actual cost to the dealer of providing a loaner from their existing stock of used cars. Instead the cost to the dealer is probably comparable to the cost of a test drive or two.
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Re: How can they afford to do that? [bwia] by backy
Jun 05, 2009 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 05, 2009 7:04 am)

They probably figure if you come in for an inspection sticker, you'll have other service done, or it's an opportunity to sell additional services.

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