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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#12382 of 20187 Re: Test drive [cannon3]
Apr 25, 2009 (12:21 pm)
The days of Toyota/Honda dominating the 4cyl market in mid size sedans is coming to an end.
I think that is a bit of a stretch. The Accord and Camry are still much stronger sellers then the Altima, and the Fusion lags quite far behind the Altima in sales. While Fusion v2.0 is much improved and is much better then its predesesor, I'm not so sure Ford will dominate this crowded class.
The 2009 Mazda6 uses a lot of the technology found in the 2010 Fusion including the same 2.5L I-4. The Mazda6 sales are off to a very slow start. Partly due to the massive content available and the little steeper price then the Big 3 from Japan. For 2010, Mazda has brought the car more inline to be more competitive. Anyway, my point is there are many very good cars in this class, 2010 Fusion included, but, I do not see Toyota or Honda stumbling anytime soon.
#12383 of 20187 Re: I don't know... [stephen987]
Apr 25, 2009 (12:22 pm)
Same for the old 3.0 Vulcan V6 from the '90s-vintage Taurus.
That was the one made by Yamaha, right?
#12384 of 20187 Re: I don't know... [aviboy97]
Apr 25, 2009 (1:03 pm)
No, Yamaha made the engine for the original SHO Taurus. The Vulcan was Ford. (Live long, and prosper.)
#12385 of 20187 Re: I don't know... [backy]
Apr 25, 2009 (1:13 pm)
The Vulcan needs not live long. Bring on the Duratec.
#12386 of 20187 Re: I don't know... [thegraduate]
Apr 25, 2009 (2:54 pm)
Sorry my attempt at humor was lost on you. Anyway, the Vulcan is dead... Jim.
#12387 of 20187 Re: I don't know... [backy]
Apr 25, 2009 (3:23 pm)
But I heard the Hyundai Genesis may bring the Vulcan back to life...........
#12388 of 20187 Re: I don't know... [backy]
Apr 25, 2009 (3:25 pm)
I was going to request that Scotty beam me up, but. . . there is intelligent life here.
#12389 of 20187 Re: I didn't realize that... [stephen987]
Apr 25, 2009 (3:54 pm)
But those are global figures
But that's what I was talking about. This IS a forum with readers/contributors from around the world. You are right that Toyota outsells VW in the US substantially but I'm not sure to what power...it could be ten to one like you say
Apr 25, 2009 (4:58 pm)
VW sales are so good in the world overall? Is it the look, people view their body designs as appealing? And quality and reliability are up a tad? Apparently this has all slipped past me here in the hicksticks of SE Arizona, imagine all that.
#12391 of 20187 Re: So what is the reason... [iluvmysephia1]
Apr 25, 2009 (6:27 pm)
Hyundai's slogan used to be, "Driving is believing." I think that slogan would be appropriate for VW. If you haven't driven them, you don't understand why many people swear by them (maybe at them sometimes...) even though they don't have as good a reliability history as Toyota or Honda. They do have good styling (they even make the Chrysler minivan look pretty decent), but it's more in the driving feel.