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#12294 of 18218 Time for another by cannon3

Apr 02, 2009 (7:42 pm)

shoot out. With the new 2009/10 Fulan out, 2009 Mazda 6 out, and a revamped Camry. Altima vs Camry vs Accord vs Fusion vs Mazda 6 vs Malibu...
 
Even though the 2010 Fusion has been getting some positive press, I feel sales are not going to skyrocket. Sales will increase but not in leaps and bounds. My feelings are I don't want the Fusion/Milan to shoot to number 1 in sales. I would rather they build the cars with quality first in mind, not sales numbers. Ford needs to rebuild trust with consumers. Once consumers have trust, sales will fall in place.

#12295 of 18218 Re: I'd say.... [wayne52] by akirby

Apr 02, 2009 (9:12 pm)

Replying to: wayne52 (Apr 02, 2009 7:37 pm)
But the 2010 V6 SEL comes standard with AWD. The 2009 is FWD. That's the difference. If you want FWD you have to start with the I4 model and upgrade to the V6.

#12296 of 18218 Re: Time for another [cannon3] by akirby

Apr 02, 2009 (9:15 pm)

Replying to: cannon3 (Apr 02, 2009 7:42 pm)
Ford can't make more than 300,000 Fusions/Milans/MKZs combined right now. They'd be more than happy with 240,000 Fusions selling without huge incentives.

#12297 of 18218 Re: Time for another [cannon3] by maxamillion85

Apr 03, 2009 (3:16 am)

Replying to: cannon3 (Apr 02, 2009 7:42 pm)
I hope if they do a comparison they wait a few more months and include the revised Altima...it should be up for a facelift this year too...hopefully Nissan will show it alongside the 370Z convertible at NYIAS

#12298 of 18218 Re: I'd say.... [akirby] by tim156

Apr 03, 2009 (5:31 am)

Replying to: akirby (Apr 02, 2009 9:12 pm)
But the 2010 V6 SEL comes standard with AWD.
 
No it doesn't. All wheel drive is optional on the V6 SEL 3.0L and the 3.5L Sport.

#12299 of 18218 Re: I'd say.... [tim156] by akirby

Apr 03, 2009 (6:02 am)

Replying to: tim156 (Apr 03, 2009 5:31 am)
You can get the SEL V6 with or without AWD, but if you choose the "SEL V6" model it comes standard with AWD. You have to get the I4 SEL and add the 3.0L engine option to get a FWD SEL V6.
 
The question was why there was a $3K price difference between a base SEL V6 model between 2009 and 2010 and the answer is that base price for the 2010 model includes AWD and stability control which was not standard on the 2009 SEL V6 model.
 
Just go to edmunds or kbb and see if you can find a FWD SEL V6 model to choose from.

#12300 of 18218 Re: I'd say.... [akirby] by jeffyscott

Apr 03, 2009 (7:17 am)

Replying to: akirby (Apr 03, 2009 6:02 am)

 
I don't think the V6 is technically listed as a stand alone option. Anyway, according to Ford, under the Fusion V6 SEL list of features they say "Select Optional Equipment: All-Wheel Drive..."
 
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/models/

#12301 of 18218 Re: I'd say.... [jeffyscott] by akirby

Apr 03, 2009 (7:56 am)

Replying to: jeffyscott (Apr 03, 2009 7:17 am)
It is if you go to an online pricing site like edmunds.com or kbb.com. For 2009 they list a "SEL V6 FWD" model and then you add options. For 2010 the only choices are "I4 SEL FWD" or "V6 SEL AWD". You have to choose the I4 SEL and add the V6 engine option.
 
The only way to get a $3K difference between a 2009 SEL V6 and a 2010 SEL V6 is to compare the 2009 FWD and the 2010 AWD which would be easy to do if you were using edmunds or kbb or any other online pricing tool.
 
I priced out a 2009 V6 SEL FWD with stability control and leather seats at $26,165. The 2010 V6 SEL FWD is $26,310. A difference of $145 - not $3,000. Leather seats are standard on the 2010 SEL.

#12302 of 18218 Re: I'd say.... [akirby] by baggs32

Apr 03, 2009 (9:20 am)

Replying to: akirby (Apr 03, 2009 7:56 am)
It is if you go to an online pricing site like edmunds.com or kbb.com. For 2009 they list a "SEL V6 FWD" model and then you add options. For 2010 the only choices are "I4 SEL FWD" or "V6 SEL AWD". You have to choose the I4 SEL and add the V6 engine option.
 
I have to agree with the others on this one Allen. Those sites you listed are just plain wrong in presenting the 2010 models in that fashion. If you build one on Ford's own site you'll find that your choice of 2010 Fusion models is as follows (excluding the Hybrid):
 
S I4 MTX FWD
S I4 ATX FWD
SE I4 MTX FWD
SE I4 ATX FWD
SE V6 ATX FWD
SEL I4 ATX FWD
SEL V6 ATX FWD
SEL V6 ATX AWD
Sport 3.5L V6 ATX FWD
Sport 3.5L V6 ATX AWD
 
There is no option for a V6 engine or AWD when you choose the SEL I4 ATX FWD and that's the way it should be.
 
For the record, a base 2010 Fusion SEL V6 (that's the 3.0L V6) FWD stickers for $26310 like you mentioned. How you arrived at that through kbb and edmunds is just crazy though. And yes, the price difference between the 2010 and 2009 is mainly due to standard features on the '10 like heated leather, Sync, and AdvanceTrac with RSC. All SEL models come with those standard now. If you want cloth seats like the '09 SEL V6 had then you need to get a '10 SE V6 FWD.

#12303 of 18218 Re: I'd say.... [baggs32] by akirby

Apr 03, 2009 (9:29 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 03, 2009 9:20 am)
I didn't say it was right or wrong - I'm just saying that's how you get the prices if you use those sites and that would explain how someone came up with a $3K price difference.
 
The whole point was that there is NOT a $3K price difference between the 2009 and 2010 models for similarly equipped models.

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