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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#12088 of 18168 Re: Paying extra for what? [deltheking]
Mar 14, 2009 (7:48 pm)
KBB: Chevrolet's Malibu has bolted from middle-of-the-road contender straight to the top of the mid-size sedan game. The 2009 Malibu looks wonderful, is solidly built and carefully crafted inside and out, offers good fuel economy, drives wonderfully and is priced to sell in serious volumes. The 2009 Chevrolet Malibu's bold, attractive sheetmetal and stylish interior touches are backed by confident handling, a quiet ride and an overall level of refinement competitive with the category's best.
Circle is what you go in. stability control, resale, handling, sluggish, fit and finish, not top, now reliability. gotta skip stability control this time through, go right to resale.
#12089 of 18168 Re: Malibu rental [sandman_6472]
Mar 14, 2009 (8:45 pm)
Have to disagree - I test drove the Accord and Camry last May while shopping. Found the Aura more impressive and bought my first Saturn. I've owned Hondas and Toyotas in the past, and, have yet to experience their "fabulous" reliability.
#12091 of 18168 Re: Is this the 2010 (or maybe 2011) Sonata? [backy]
Mar 15, 2009 (6:09 am)
First of all, I cannot see a single picture of the alleged 2010 Sonate, and second...there never was anything wrong with their styling.Especially since 2006.
Mar 15, 2009 (7:26 am)
The 2010 looks awesome...much more mainstream Camcordish. It just looks like a beefier car with a very aggressive stance. The sides look similar to the new 2010 Mazda 3 with that same crease line going through the door handles. The front looks similar to the '05-'06 Camry and I also see a resemblance to the current Caddy CTS down the flanks.
All in all, this new model should bring Sonata numbers up if the price and fit and finish are dead on with the Camcords. I suspect the pricing will undercut the other family sedans just to bring in foot traffic to the Hyundai stores. Once people see it and drive it, have no doubt that it'll sell in numbers that will dwarf the current generation Sonata. Job well done Hyundai!
#12093 of 18168 Re: Is this the 2010 (or maybe 2011) Sonata? [backy]
Mar 15, 2009 (7:33 am)
It's bold, I'll say that. I need to see more views, but it definitely looks like an improvement.
#12094 of 18168 Re: Is this the 2010 (or maybe 2011) Sonata? [backy]
Mar 15, 2009 (7:50 am)
Genesis Jr., anyone?
Despite that, I like it. Not so sure how big the trunk opening is with the rear window that far back... The only other thing is the taillights are HUGE.
I'll have to see it in person, but it is a nice update to the current Sonata (which IMO is a handsome car now).
#12095 of 18168 Re: Outstanding [sandman_6472]
Mar 15, 2009 (10:42 am)
I think the front is a LOT sleeker than the previous-gen Camry--obviously influenced by the Genesis. The profile to me is reminiscent of the VW CC. I don't see any resemblance to the Mazda3--many cars have a crease through the door handles. The rear? It looks like Hyundai is determined to have the biggest tail lamps in the mid-sized sedan market.
How about powerplants? A hybrid is confirmed. There will likely be a V6 for the US market. But I would like to see one of Hyundai's new GDi turbocharged four-cylinder engines in the Sonata. I have read about their 167-horsepower 1.6-liter GDi with stop-start, and a dual-clutch six-speed transmission, targeted for the next-gen Tucson. If it can haul a Tucson around, it should be able to handle a Sonata.
#12096 of 18168 Re: Is this the 2010 (or maybe 2011) Sonata? [backy]
Mar 15, 2009 (11:05 am)
I see Mazda6 in the front shape/fenders and some Malibu from the side and maybe some Beemer in the taillights but its hard to tell without a good rear view. I also see some Maxima in the headlights.
Overall, it's a radical departure from the very conservative present style but it looks very stylish and more in tune with current styles. Hope it ends up looking like that and the US gets the same car as S. Korea.
#12097 of 18168 Re: Is this the 2010 (or maybe 2011) Sonata? [m6user]
Mar 15, 2009 (11:11 am)
Keep in mind that the front and the rear details are artist's renderings at this point. We know the side profile is as per the renderings because there have been several spy shots of the actual car that show the new profile, with the side crease. And a horizontal-bar grille can be seen through the spy car wrappings. All else is speculation.
Malibu? I have no idea where you see any Malibu in the new Sonata. The Malibu has slab sides and a much different roof profile.