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#12081 of 18223 Re: Paying extra for what? [deltheking] by dave8697

Mar 14, 2009 (2:21 pm)

Replying to: deltheking (Mar 14, 2009 12:36 pm)
As I said in my post above #12072,,, all modern cars are ok till 60-70k miles.Nowadays folks drive to more than. 120k miles easily.
And it is the long term reliability which is important.
42k miles on a modern car is absolutely nothing.Wait till 85k atleast for long term reliability.
 
This is good. A guy saves $3000-5000 up front, and the mistake he is unknowingly making is a reliability drop off after 85,000 miles as compared to the reliability drop off of a Camcord? By that time, the savings is turned into $5-7000 with interest and if the Domestic car needs a few hundred dollars repair after the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty expires, that's a disaster?
 
I bought 3 used domestics in the 85,000 mile range since 2004. That is 5 years on one, 4 years on another, and 2 years on the third one since then. 136,000 miles have been added to them in those 11 years of ownership. Only one refused to start once and it was the starter motor at 168k miles. They have needed very little and they are late 90's models which are from about 3 generations ago in Domestic quality. Important? They could have been twice as unreliable and it would still be insignificant.
 
Per KBB: Chevrolet's Malibu has bolted from middle-of-the-road contender straight to the top of the mid-size sedan game. The 2009 Malibu looks wonderful, is solidly built and carefully crafted inside and out, offers good fuel economy, drives wonderfully and is priced to sell in serious volumes. The 2009 Chevrolet Malibu's bold, attractive sheetmetal and stylish interior touches are backed by confident handling, a quiet ride and an overall level of refinement competitive with the category's best.

#12082 of 18223 Re: Malibu rental [sandman_6472] by dave8697

Mar 14, 2009 (2:23 pm)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Mar 14, 2009 2:13 pm)
• Comparing the Malibu's available V6 to Accord's well-liked V6 "The Accord and Malibu perform about as similarly as possible: 0 to 60 is a push; the quarter mile goes to the Accord by a tenth; 60 to 0 to the Malibu by four feet; lateral acceleration separated by a scant 0.01 g; and a figure-eight advantage to the Chevy by 0.4 second. It's plausible that the numbers represent two runs by the same car." -- Motor Trend

#12083 of 18223 And...? by sandman_6472

Mar 14, 2009 (2:31 pm)

I only had the Malibu for about 100 miles until we had some issues. Both the Accord and the Malibu had similar mileage, about 12k on the odo, but the 4 cylinder Accord drove much better than the 6 in the Malibu. The Accord was just lighter on it's feet and we had both trunks stuffed with my daughters belongings...the Malibu just drove very sluggish, like the Caddies and Lincolns my folks ha in the '60's and '70's...felt like an "old persons" car basically.
 
The Sandman

#12084 of 18223 Re: Paying extra for what? [dave8697] by deltheking

Mar 14, 2009 (3:15 pm)

Replying to: dave8697 (Mar 14, 2009 2:21 pm)
I meant,,all new cars SHOULD run 60-70k miles with no problem.Doesn`t mean all new cars DO RUN that many miles with no problems.
And based on all surveys,Hondas and Toyotas do that.
The Malibu is just average in reliability.Doesn`t mean cars will stall or breakdown on the freeway.
Concept of reliability has changed in the past few years.It means problem free,low maintenance ,good fit and finish quality materials without annoying disturbances.Toyota and Honda are top in that segment.

#12085 of 18223 Re: Paying extra for what? [deltheking] by backy

Mar 14, 2009 (4:08 pm)

Replying to: deltheking (Mar 14, 2009 3:15 pm)
I meant,,all new cars SHOULD run 60-70k miles with no problem. Doesn`t mean allnew cars DO RUN that many miles with no problems. And based on all surveys,Hondas and Toyotas do that.
 
If you mean based on all surveys, all Hondas and Toyotas run 60-70k miles with no problems... that is not the case. At least according to one of the biggest and best-known surveys, from Consumers Union. Also according to that survey, the Malibu is above average in reliability--same rating as the Accord, and above the Camry.

#12086 of 18223 Re: Malibu rental [sandman_6472] by lilengineerboy

Mar 14, 2009 (4:16 pm)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Mar 14, 2009 2:13 pm)
My '07 Accord EX doesn't have the "FULL power seat instead of the 1/2 one which cheap GM has in the few GM cars I've rented recently" and I never really thought it was bad. Now I feel second class.
 
And for the 3rd time, the '06 MazdaSpeed6 on Autotrader was already sold when I called. I think dealers are cutting back, not updating their ads, not responding to emails, and basically unless you are right there, not really paying attention to you. I guess that might be how the D3 cut back on their dealer network.

#12087 of 18223 Re: Malibu rental [lilengineerboy] by jeffyscott

Mar 14, 2009 (4:41 pm)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 14, 2009 4:16 pm)
Salespeople at new car dealers have been very responsive to emails from me, I am helping my kid shop for a new car. Out of date info on autotrader is is nothing new.

#12088 of 18223 Re: Paying extra for what? [deltheking] by dave8697

Mar 14, 2009 (7:48 pm)

Replying to: deltheking (Mar 14, 2009 3:15 pm)
KBB: Chevrolet's Malibu has bolted from middle-of-the-road contender straight to the top of the mid-size sedan game. The 2009 Malibu looks wonderful, is solidly built and carefully crafted inside and out, offers good fuel economy, drives wonderfully and is priced to sell in serious volumes. The 2009 Chevrolet Malibu's bold, attractive sheetmetal and stylish interior touches are backed by confident handling, a quiet ride and an overall level of refinement competitive with the category's best.
 
Circle is what you go in. stability control, resale, handling, sluggish, fit and finish, not top, now reliability. gotta skip stability control this time through, go right to resale.

#12089 of 18223 Re: Malibu rental [sandman_6472] by oldcem

Mar 14, 2009 (8:45 pm)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Mar 14, 2009 2:13 pm)
Have to disagree - I test drove the Accord and Camry last May while shopping. Found the Aura more impressive and bought my first Saturn. I've owned Hondas and Toyotas in the past, and, have yet to experience their "fabulous" reliability.
 
Regards:
Oldengineer

#12090 of 18223 Is this the 2010 (or maybe 2011) Sonata? by backy

Mar 15, 2009 (5:45 am)

If so, watch out, other mid-sizers! Hyundai is getting serious about styling on its sedans!
 
http://www.hyundai-blog.com/index.php/2008/12/15/next-generation-hyundai-sonata-- yf-renderings/

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