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The 2009 Chevrolet Malibu hits a high-water mark for its size and price with taut proportions, elegant lines and a crisp, clean profile. Its split grille represents the new global face of Chevrolet cars, and its twin round taillamps are traditional Chevy cues. With tight panel gaps and rich-looking details, this new mid-size Chevy looks like $40,000 while starting at half that price. Current rebate puts the LS into the upper $19's. These came out at 19,995 in 2007. They added ESC and lowered the price since then. KBB puts a 1 yr old one at $12,500 but a 100 mile radius search found only 2 for sale and the lower priced one was $13,800 with over 28k miles on it. At least locally, they almost hit KBB predicted value drops of 42% of 22,605 in year one. You can get one new in the high 18's so the drop you feel is more like $5k for 2 yrs worth of miles, but isn't that about the same as a Camcord? Would you pay more than $16 for a 28k mi used Camry that was $21k new OTD? That's the only fault they found in the Malibu review by KBB. |
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Mar 13, 2009 2:03 am) I agree. I don't think I have run into anyone on here who has spent as much time in both gen1 and gen2 Mazda6's then me and I will agree with that statement in it's entirety. It's nice to know that a company listens to the negative feedback in reference to their cars and actually improves almost every aspect that needed improvement. Quality? Check Materials used? Check Fuel economy? Check More Power? Check Large enough to compete with class leaders? Check Safety content? Check Sporty design? Check Make it drive like a Mazda? Check More content? Check Seems they did a good job to me.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 14, 2009 5:33 am) http://www.mazdausamedia.com/content/mazda-reports-february-2009-sales They just may find that this "me too-ism" does not work.
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 14, 2009 7:20 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 14, 2009 7:20 am) • Measured against the Honda Accord, "On a curvy road, the Chevy heightens the fun factor, providing superior ride composure, the ability to perform fingertip shifts, and communicative, albeit slightly heavy, steering that carves tighter, crisper lines. Hop on the highway, and the Malibu continues to separate itself, delivering a softer, quieter ride and power that, while down 14 horses, seems to pull more strongly and naturally." - Motor Trend Malibu has 2750 rebate that gets you ESC, auto, great looks, and the top consumer's ratings(9.4) for High 18's with little negoiating time.
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Replying to: backy (Mar 14, 2009 7:32 am) http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1097/releases/4957 The Fusion is also "only" down 35% ytd. http://media.ford.com/images/10031/February09sales.pdf If this new Mazda6 is so much more appealing than the old one, it would not, I think, be seeing a 49% drop. Or put it this way, perhaps it is more appealing to the average buyer, but there is no real reason for that average buyer (who is looking for a transportation appliance) to prefer the Mazda6 over the Accord or Camry.
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Replying to: dave8697 (Mar 14, 2009 7:50 am) In that aspect,Camry and Accord have a long lasting record.Whereas the malibu and aura are relatively unknown .Yes first 3 or 4 years ,they are fine,,after that who knows? If the quality has really improved,,it would take atleast 5 more years for real long term reliability. Same thing for the fusion.Lasts 3 years were good.Now the real test comes in the next 3 - 4 years. Honda and Toyota did not get an easy pass..They have decades of proven reliability to back up their record. Infact ,i would say,,cars nowadays have an easier pass than say some 20 years ago.The first toyota,honda and hyundai cars were the butt of all jokes. But see, how remarkably they have reached the top.Infact,,if any,,american sedans get an easier pass-- just an improvement over a previous model becomes a game changer.Maybe very true,,but long term reliability trends are needed.[[ and long term is like 85k+miles or more ,,not 30k miles]] |
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I am living proof you don't have to pay the premium price that Honda and Toyota demand for their vehicles either new or used. I am one of those folks who test drove and test drove every car in this segment before settling on a domestic brand vehicle in 2006. I paid between $3,000 - $5,000 less for a like optioned vehicle. I was told by many Honda/Toyota owners that I would be sorry, my car would break down, ect.. Well, after 42,000 trouble free, squeak free, rattle free miles, now what argument? I made a great choice and have never looked back.. I believe I am a growing number of consumers that are finding out that you don't need to pay a lot of $$$ to get a reliable, well made vehicle.  And before this vehicle I owned another domestic vehicle that went over 110,000 miles with no issues. Looks to me this argument of longterm reliability is down the tubes. There is also an article on the net about how a New York cab company using Escape Hybrids that have well over 100,000 reliable miles on them..
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Replying to: cannon3 (Mar 14, 2009 10:27 am) Expectations have changed. Customers now expect far more than 100k miles of reliability. So it's too soon to tell if your 2006 model is really going to be reliable over the long haul. It probably will be, if it's a recent Ford or GM midsize sedan, but we don't know yet. |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 14, 2009 8:57 am) Don't you think the huge price difference between the 2008 close-out specials and the all-new 2009s has something to do with the sales drop-off? This was not a factor for Accord, Camry, or Fusion, at least up until now. It will be interesting to see how Fusion sales hold up if incentives and discounts are cut for the 2010 models. Will sticker shock reign?
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