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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#12046 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 37200 in 2008 [jeffyscott]
Mar 12, 2009 (7:17 pm)
...so why buy it rather than an Accord or a (now much cheaper) Fusion?
I can think of two reasons right off the bat: far superior styling and design, inside and out.
Also for someone buying a car right now, the Fusion is hard to find with ESC---standard on the Mazda6. Not an issue with the 2010 Fusion of course, or the Accord.
Interesting that the Motorweek review was much different from C/D's opinion. They said:
... the Mazda showed that its ability to zig and zag hasn't been diminished too much by its size increase.
They also said the 6 had more overtly sporty suspension tuning than the Accord's, but that the ride of the 6 was if anything too harsh--not "family-car soft" as Motorweek said. Different strokes for different folks I guess. You might want to drive it to see what you think of it, rather than taking Motorweek's (or C/D's) word for it.
#12047 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 37200 in 2008 [backy]
Mar 12, 2009 (7:20 pm)
I don`t think the differences between Accord LX and the Camry LE the trim levels are a lot,,,,more so for folks buying these 2 sedans,,as their main needs are quality,value and reliability.
Also,I don`t think people spending 20-25k on a car would be particularly concerned about one model being a grand less.I don`t think the difference between 24k and 25k would be enough for folks to consider a different model.
Accord and Camry buyers have totally different buyers though- one needs a reliable ,peppier drive,the other needs a reliable ,soft and comfy drive.
#12048 of 20187 Re: Best Interior [robbieg]
Mar 13, 2009 (1:54 am)
I was in a Mazda6 last week. The interior of the GT model is gorgeous. The front and rear seats were very comfortable. I've seen the Accord, Camry, and Altima, but haven't sat in them.
#12049 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 37200 in 2008 [jeffyscott]
Mar 13, 2009 (2:03 am)
Or maybe the "improvements" have caused it to lose too much of it's former uniqueness...so why buy it rather than an Accord or a (now much cheaper) Fusion? Saw Motorweek tonight and their review certainly made me feel that, as an owner of the prior version, I'd be disappointed were I to drive one.
Have you ACTUALLY driven one? Can you accurately say that you'd be disappointed in the '09 if you haven't?
Well, I have, and I was NOT disappointed. I'll admit that there was a slight decline in the overall sportiness of the 6 compared to the 1st-gen, but in return, you get a car with more room in the back (which IMO it needed), a larger trunk, a HUGE improvement in interior materials and fit-and-finish, and more power with the same fuel economy. It still felt polished and composed when cornering hard, still had excellent brakes which were easy to modulate, still had accurate steering, and IMO is still the Drivers car of the class.
As my mother always said, "Don't knock it 'till you tried it." Well, I did, and it's at the top of my list to replace my current 6, at least until I get some drive time in the 2010 Fusion Sport.
#12050 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 37200 in 2008 [mz6greyghost]
Mar 13, 2009 (5:33 am)
Have you ACTUALLY driven one?
No, I sat in one and was disappointed that they seem to have downsized the seat cushion...the not quite long enough seat being a vehicular pet-peeve of mine. I am also not a fan of the super-sized RX-8 looks, the cheap black plastic filler in place of glass in the rear windows, or the "luxurious" chrome trim around the windows.
Can you accurately say that you'd be disappointed in the '09 if you haven't?
I did not say that, I said the review made me feel that I would be disappointed were I to drive one. I have no reason to drive one, as I am not in the market for a replacement of my beloved 2007 . Were I in the market, I'd probably lean toward the Fusion or a compact, since mid-size cars are mostly being super-sized now.
I probably should go look for a "compact sedan comparison" thread on here.
#12051 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 37200 in 2008 [deltheking]
Mar 13, 2009 (5:44 am)
I was talking about the differences between the Accord LX-P and Camry LE trims. I think the alloys and ESC (VSA) on the Accord are signficant. Maybe others don't.
If you don't think $1000 is a significant difference, fine. But if you don't believe it's significant for other buyers, take a look sometime at the various "Prices Paid" discussions, where people are searching high and low for prices that are only $100 or so less than what they've already been quoted. For them, $1000 would be VERY significant.
#12052 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 37200 in 2008 [backy]
Mar 13, 2009 (6:57 am)
I disagree with you. Buying a car is a two step process picking the model and negotiating the price. In picking the model I don't think people exclude a car because it costs a thousand more than another model. However, after having decided on the model people want to get the best deal possible. People don't want to spend an extra thousand if they don't have to. At some point people choose a model because of price. However, I think the price difference has to be be around $3000. One only need look at Sonata boards to realize that people have picked the Sonata because of the significant price difference between a Sonata and an Accord, for example.
#12053 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 372000 in 2008 [backy]
Mar 13, 2009 (8:03 am)
People after deciding to buy a Camry/Accord then decide on the trim llevels and want the lowest price.But to say that people spending 20-25k on a new car would select a different model just for 1k is unrealistic.
If so,then everyone would buy a kia/suzuki/hyundai/dodge with rebates b`cos they are thousands less.The difference there would be 3k-5k which is significant.But the difference between 24k and 25 k is negligible in deciding a model.
To say everyone buys a camry just b`cos its a grand less is not true.People who can afford 24k can afford 25k.It`s not like deciding between 20k and 25k.
#12054 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 372000 in 2008 [deltheking]
Mar 13, 2009 (8:07 am)
And that's how people find financial difficulties. "This car is only a thousand more!" "This house is only $15,000 more!"
Soon, you're upside down and can't pay for things.
#12055 of 20187 Re: Camry vs Accord sales-436000 vs 372000 in 2008 [thegraduate]
Mar 13, 2009 (8:20 am)
You dont end up in financial difficulties if u can afford a 24k/25k car.You can buy a 23k very unreliable car--- U end up in even worse financial mess,poor resale ,negative equity.
If u are concerned about 1k ,,,then buying a 25k new car should never be your option.U need to be looking at used cars in the 10k or less range and even then buy reliable cars.What is the point of buying an unreliable car for 1k less,,,when it is going to cost much more in repairs?