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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: [mtnman1] by explorerx4
Jan 20, 2009 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Jan 20, 2009 4:42 pm)

as a mid size sedan and suv owner, i say DITTO!
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Please folks by pat HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (6:21 am)
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no more personal comments!
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Re: [stephen987] by aviboy97
Jan 21, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jan 20, 2009 3:36 pm)

I thought the Mazda 6i SV was supposed to be a mostly hypothetical car
 
It is. Dealers are only allowed to order them if they are offered by their regional head of distribution. I have 2 on my lot.
 
These are the only manual transmission examples of the Mazda6 within 100 miles of here, according to the Mazda website.
 
There are no i Sport's in your area with a 6-speed manual? That's odd. I guess they may be popular in your area, and could be sold out.
 
Always call a dealer, or submit an online inquiry because Mazda's web site may not always be accurate.
 
Does anyone out there know if these items are available as dealer-installed accessories?
 
Cannot be done by a Mazda dealer. You are better off finding a Sport.
 
Again, best bet could be to submit an online inquiry to a few dealers. Let them know what you are looking for and see what they say. Good luck!
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Re: [aviboy97] by mz6greyghost
Jan 21, 2009 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 21, 2009 6:34 am)

aviboy97:
 
Heard any more rumors of the 6-speed manual for the 6S for 2010 lately?
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Re: [aviboy97] by stephen987
Jan 21, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 21, 2009 6:34 am)

Thanks, aviboy97. It's pretty hard to find ANY midsize with a manual around here. The local Honda store has two manual Accords (one LX-P and one EX-L), and I struck out when trying to find a manual Sonata, Fusion/Milan, or Altima. There's only one Mazda dealer within 90 miles, and I'm not impressed with their management or salespeople based on my previous experiences with them. If I lived in a larger, more competitive market, I'm sure there would be more choices available. As it is, I'll probably hold onto the '02 Accord awhile, but there's always the possibility of replacing our '99 Civic with something a bit nicer and roomier--somehow I can't get as comfy in it as I could 50 pounds ago 10 years ago.
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Re: [mz6greyghost] by aviboy97
Jan 21, 2009 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jan 21, 2009 6:47 am)

Unfortunately not.
 
Official changes or modifications for MY2010 have not been announced, either. The only alteration I am aware of is that production Job #2 will incorporate Hiroshima built 2.5L engines into the production of the NA Mazda6 along with the ones built in Mexico. Its basically just the block and heads. All other components are assembled at AAI (alternator, exhaust, etc)
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Re: [baggs32] by backy
Jan 21, 2009 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 20, 2009 10:07 am)

Recall that your assertion was:
 
Therefore someone coming out of an SUV for FE purposes would choose one of them [mid-sized hybrid sedan] over a Prius every time I say.
 
So I provided a few examples from the Prius Prices Paid discussion to illustrate that there are SUV owners who have seriously considered, and purchased, a Prius. Some of these examples are very specific that the decision was based on FE. Here are snippets of the examples I posted, with key text bolded:
 
From 172 (someone trading an SUV for a Prius): "My question is - what do I have to be careful of at this point? We already agreed upfront on MSRP, which seems standard in the Bay Area. He promised a fair trade-in value for my SUV (which he preliminarily estimated through Edmunds figures, amounting to about $2000 below Kelley - any suggestions on this?). And I've told him that I'll be paying cash."
  
From 744 (looking for pricing on a Prius): "We are new to California and gas prices are forcing my hand out of an 06 SUV."
  
From 1471: "The 4 week waiting list [for a Prius] is probably not such a bad thing since I have a SUV I am trying to unload - 4 weeks might not be enough."
   
From 1693: "I think I am getting the car {Prius} free with the savings from the suv that I gave up."
  
Note that all of these posts are from a time when there was at least one mid-sized hybrid sedan available--Camry Hybrid at minimum, and for some also the Altima and GM hybrids. As you pointed out, the FFH isn't available for sale yet, so there aren't yet any posts in the Prius "prices paid" discussion about how someone chose a Prius over the FFH. But wait a few months, when the 2010 FFH and 2010 Prius are at dealers, and then I predict we'll see that kind of comparison... just as folks in the recent past, represented by the posts above, took a good look at and (in some cases) actully bought a Prius instead of the mid-sized sedan hybrids available to them.

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