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Re: [baggs32] by backy
Jan 19, 2009 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 19, 2009 6:19 pm)

I read exactly what you said--something about an SUV buyer picking a Camry or Fusion over a Prius. Try to be more clear, OK?
 
What is "plush" anyway? I wouldn't call a lot of SUVs I've ridden in "plush."
 
Have you driven the 2010 FFH, TCH, and Prius and compared their relative "plushness" and comfort levels? Have you interviewed every person who is going from an S_V (no U involved, remember) to a hybrid car to see whether they would prefer a sedan or hatchback? No? Yet you are sure that someone coming out of an SUV for FE purposes would choose one of them over a Prius every time--even though the Prius trumps them on FE? Okee doke.
 
As long as you are telling people what is valid or not valid to buy, we could talk about everyone who buys an SUV for any reason but going off-road did so for an invalid reason. But that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?
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Re: [baggs32] by backy
Jan 19, 2009 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 19, 2009 6:19 pm)

Therefore someone coming out of an SUV for FE purposes would choose one of them over a Prius every time I say.
 
Other people say something else. They obviously have different buying criteria than you do. For example, check out posts 172, 744, 1471, and 1693 here:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0a4a2c.f0a4a16/0
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Re: [backy] by baggs32
Jan 20, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 19, 2009 6:43 pm)

Well, now I know you didn't read any of it.
 
Have you driven the 2010 FFH, TCH, and Prius and compared their relative "plushness" and comfort levels?
 
No, and I stated that previously.
 
Have you interviewed every person who is going from an S_V (no U involved, remember) to a hybrid car to see whether they would prefer a sedan or hatchback? No? Yet you are sure that someone coming out of an SUV for FE purposes would choose one of them over a Prius every time--even though the Prius trumps them on FE?
 
IMO, yes, I do think they would look right past the Prius and go with the more comfortable cruisers. Is that so hard to understand? What's your opinion on the matter? Obviously you don't agree with mine so what is your take?
 
As long as you are telling people what is valid or not valid to buy,
 
Again, valid to the argument. I never said what you are implying.
 
This has just become pointless to argue anymore because I just read your profile. Looks like anything negative about the Prius is off-limits with you.
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Re: [backy] by baggs32
Jan 20, 2009 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 19, 2009 7:27 pm)

 
 
172 is about someone taking delivery of their Prius. What exactly does that have to do with them trading in their SUV and choosing a Prius over the Camry hybrid which was the only other mid-sized hybrid at that time, 08/2006, IIRC?
 
744 shows us someone looking for a Prius to replace an SUV but we never find out if he bought one or not. His posts just stop. Same for 1471.
 
1693's author just tells us about his/her new Prius but I don't see where s/he owned an SUV that was traded in for it.
 
Those were all nice, but are there any newer posts that pertain to the argument at hand? Someone who traded in an SUV for a Prius and passed up the Camry hybrid, Altima hybrid, Malibu hybrid and Fusion hybrid? Obvioulsy the last one isn't out yet so I'll settle for the other three.
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Re: [baggs32] by jeffyscott
Jan 20, 2009 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 20, 2009 9:48 am)

Never had an SUV, but we have had a minivan since 1989 (two different ones) and had a hatchback (Horizon) before that. When I was shopping there was still a Mazda6 hatchback, I thought it would be nice to have that little bit of extra utility, but I ended up getting the sedan.
 
Part of my decision was influenced by the fact that we were keeping our old 1997 minivan as a spare and/or for any of our kids to use. So, not being a handyman who is constantly hauling stuff, I figured we'd still have the old minivan for those rare occassions when more than a sedan is needed.
 
I don't know if we are unusual or if a lot of other folks also just keep their old SUV or minivan and therefore the utility factor of their new mid-size car is not really a factor. I have one relative who bought a Prius, they kept their (not so old) minvan and just stopped using it for commuting. Their choice of the Prius was all about the mpg rating, not any utility factor.
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Re: [bpizzuti] by mtnman1
Jan 20, 2009 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 19, 2009 3:37 am)

Personally, I think an SUV buyer would never consider a Prius anyway, because they're not getting that "lord of the world" feeling from it.

I don't think people buy SUV's because they want to have some special feeling of superiority over others. That's the kind of crap I here from SUV haters all the time. We have two vehicles. One is a SUV and I like the idea that I can easily get around when we get a foot of snow which a Prius or Camry can't do. We like the fact that we can go to Lowe's or Home Depot and put an 8 foot long piece of lumber or a large gas grill (assembled) in our vehicle without renting or borrowing a vehicle. We also like the fact that we can put 7 people in our SUV without taking 2 vehicles when we are going out to eat or to a movie and have out of town guests or we have our 3 Kids, Daughter-In-Law and Grandson. It absolutely has nothing to do with being "lord of the world." I frankly think Prius owners have a better than thou attitude.
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by backy
Jan 20, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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That's the kind of crap I here from SUV haters all the time. ...
 
I frankly think Prius owners have a better than thou attitude.

 
Funny... that's the kind of crap I hear from hybrid haters all the time.
 
Could we dispense with the name-calling and get back to discussing cars?
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Re: [backy] by stephen987
Jan 20, 2009 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 20, 2009 3:16 pm)

Guys, please, back on topic:
 
I thought the Mazda 6i SV was supposed to be a mostly hypothetical car, like the base Altima. But my local dealer, not a very large one, has five of them in stock. These are the only manual transmission examples of the Mazda6 within 100 miles of here, according to the Mazda website.
 
I'd probably go for the black one, if the SV had (a) keyless entry and (b) cruise control. So:
 
Does anyone out there know if these items are available as dealer-installed accessories? And would the cost be so high that I'd be better off hunting down a (very scarce down here) 6i Sport instead?
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Re: [backy] by mtnman1
Jan 20, 2009 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 20, 2009 3:16 pm)

Backy I never stated once that I was a hybrid hater. In fact, if it made any sense financially to buy one, I would be very interested in the new Fusion Hybrid. I was basically refuting a false impression of SUV owners. Some of us own them for good reasons. I never thought I was name calling anyway. Just defending SUV owners. I don't apologize for owning one and I love driving them.

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