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2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Full Test Enjoy!
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Replying to: pat (Jan 16, 2009 7:57 am) 
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 15, 2009 11:09 am) One of them being Motor Trend. They compared it directly to the Camry, Altima, and Malibu hybrids on the same days and in the same conditions. That is how you are supposed to conduct a comparison and Edmunds needs to follow up with this because they just compared apples to oranges in that article. The Fusion came out way ahead of all of them in the MT comparo BTW. Edmunds seems to have arrived at unusually high numbers for the Camry in that article too. Be it the weather, the driver, or whatever, something seems terribly off balance with their results. |
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Hybrids are great on gas and all but with $1.80 gas, no one cares anymore. Sales of the Prius are down 50%. I fear the Fusion Hybrid is not going to sell all that well but I think the I-4 will if priced well. People need to give big three cars like Fusion and Malibu a drive, they are really good.
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 16, 2009 6:39 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 17, 2009 8:24 am) Care to explain that? A Prius certainly does not cost 100K,and what is a FFH?
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 17, 2009 9:35 am) Even though Ford has modest sales goals for the Fusion Hybrid, it will be interesting to see how it does if gas stays below $2 a gallon. The hybrid starts around $27k, and a Fusion I4 can be had with decent equipment for under $20k--with improved fuel economy for the 2010 model year. Those who are OK spending $27k+ for a hybrid may turn to the 2010 Prius, if it is roomy enough. Then there's the 2010 Insight, reportedly starting well under $18k, if a smaller car will fit. The Insight is a compact, though, so not direct competition for the Fusion. But I think the Prius is. As is the Camry hybrid of course, which is improved for 2010 MY also and has a starting price less than the Fusion.
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 17, 2009 9:35 am) The Prius sells at about 100,000 units per year is what he was implying. Since Ford already has trouble meeting the demands for the Escape / Mariner Hybrid, I have no doubt that Ford will have any issue selling the 25,000 the intend to build. |
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Replying to: backy (Jan 17, 2009 9:54 am) They compete in FE only. Sure they are sized similarly but the Fusion, and Camry for that matter, are much more refined and better as daily drivers than the Prius (I've never driven one so this is purely off of what I've read over the years). If you still think the Prius is a direct competitor to the FFH then you must think it competes with it's lot-mate the Camry hybrid right? Why would Toyota put two competing cars on the same lots everywhere? As is the Camry hybrid of course, which is improved for 2010 MY also and has a starting price less than the Fusion. The FFH offers a bit more than the Camry hybrid though. To get any sort of high tech readout of the hybrid system in the Camry you have to get the nav. The FFH offers a high tech solution to that want right out of the box. Then there's the FE gap between the two and some other small things that, IMO, make the Fusion worth the extra grand or grand and a half over the Camry.
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 17, 2009 6:15 pm) As to why Toyota would put two competing cars on the same lot, you'd have to ask them that. While you're at it, ask them if anyone ever checks out both the RAV4 and Highlander, or the Camry and Avalon, or the Yaris sedan and Corolla, or the Yaris 5-door and Matrix. If you think the Fusion is worth more money than the Camry, great. But I think some buyers are going to have sticker shock when they look at the Fusion Hybrid, if only due to perception, e.g. "Car sales are way down, you are asking taxpayers to provide you with a line of credit, and you want HOW much for that Fusion??" People are used to getting gouged for Toyotas, however.  (Toyota sales reps and fans, please note the after that last comment!)
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