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#11470 of 13213 Re: Wanted - Softer Suspensions by starryknight Jan 14, 2009 (7:42 pm)
Now now. If everyone had the same preferences in ride quality, everyone would be buying pretty much the same car, wouldn't they?? Everyone has their own perceptions and opinions of what is soft and what is firm and I respect that. When I read reviews on Edmunds, KBB, Car & Driver, etc and read that they concluded the ride to be very plush on cars like the Camry, Impala, Azera, etc, and that these cars had the tendancy to bounce and bob going over dips on the highway, my perception was that they would be similar to the cars of the 80's. I was just a little suprised (and maybe a little disappointed) that they weren't really that soft, that's all. I really don't want to go the large car route, like the Grand Marquis or the more expensive Town Car. That's really too big, even though I would probably come closer in achieving my objective, plus I don't want RWD. As far as Buicks go, I haven't actually driven one in probably 15 - 20 years. They have never been a car I've been drawn to but maybe I'll try one out. And, bpizutti, I never said the Camry's ride was "too firm". I said the ride was a bit softer than my Accord but not enough so that I would be willing to lose a few thousand trading it in. Reading everyone's input and opinions, it looks like I won't find that perfect ride but will have to make some compromises instead. I do appreciate and respect everyone's input in this discussion. Thanks Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jan 14, 2009 8:06 pm) bwia (Jan 15, 2009 5:29 am) jeffyscott (Jan 15, 2009 7:20 am)
#11471 of 13213 Re: Wanted - Softer Suspensions [starryknight] by explorerx4 Jan 14, 2009 (8:06 pm)
Replying to: starryknight (Jan 14, 2009 7:42 pm) after all that, you better let us know what you decide! Replies to this message: bwia (Jan 15, 2009 5:29 am)
#11472 of 13213 Re: Wanted - Softer Suspensions [explorerx4] by bwia Jan 15, 2009 (5:29 am)
Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 14, 2009 8:06 pm) The Chevy Malibu LS (16" tires) comes close to the plush and quiet ride you are so desirous of. Unfortunately, the 2009 Mallibu comes with 17 inchers so I not sure if the ride characteristics are the same as the 2008.
#11473 of 13213 Re: Wanted - Softer Suspensions [starryknight] by jeffyscott Jan 15, 2009 (7:20 am)
Replying to: starryknight (Jan 14, 2009 7:42 pm) they concluded the ride to be very plush...these cars had the tendancy to bounce and bob going over dips on the highway, my perception was that they would be similar to the cars of the 80's. I was just a little suprised (and maybe a little disappointed) that they weren't really that soft, that's all.   If you are looking for a land barge, maybe an older car that was soft to start with and has softened up even more with age would be appealing. My 1997 Windstar floats and jiggles and jostles it's way down the road, I like to make barge-like foghorn noises while driving it . I'm sure it was always soft, but I think it is even more so now than when it was new.   If a new Camry doesn't do it, maybe a 10 year old one would give you that (lack of) feel that you seek .   You could look into softer tires, some who like a soft ride have referred to Goodyear Comfort tread tires.
#11474 of 13213 2010 Fusion Hybrid overrated? by aviboy97 Jan 15, 2009 (10:57 am)
New article on Edmunds shows that the Fusion Hybrid got far less then their EPA estimates and was actually beat out by the Camry by almost 6mpg city. They did say lousy weather could account for a bit of that. Replies to this message: akirby (Jan 15, 2009 11:09 am) bpizzuti (Jan 15, 2009 12:09 pm) baggs32 (Jan 16, 2009 6:21 pm)
#11475 of 13213 Re: 2010 Fusion Hybrid overrated? [aviboy97] by akirby Jan 15, 2009 (11:09 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 15, 2009 10:57 am) And a bunch of reporters BEAT the epa estimates, getting as much as 52 mpg.   Not surprising from Edmunds, given their past track record.   I can't find a link to the article....... Replies to this message: bpizzuti (Jan 15, 2009 12:09 pm) baggs32 (Jan 16, 2009 6:21 pm)
#11476 of 13213 Re: 2010 Fusion Hybrid overrated? [akirby] by bpizzuti Jan 15, 2009 (12:09 pm)
Replying to: akirby (Jan 15, 2009 11:09 am) It's on inside Line. They also came out and said that weather was the likely factor, and they needed to test the vehicles the same day under the same conditions, as the two figures are not comparable given the different testing conditions.   So much as the secret Toyota agents try, there is no pulling down Ford.
#11477 of 13213 Link by pat HOST Jan 16, 2009 (7:57 am)
2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Full Test   Enjoy! Replies to this message: urnews (Jan 16, 2009 9:24 am)
#11478 of 13213 Re: Link [pat] by urnews Jan 16, 2009 (9:24 am)
Replying to: pat (Jan 16, 2009 7:57 am) Good read on the 2010 Fusion Hybrid. I did enjoy it.
#11479 of 13213 Re: 2010 Fusion Hybrid overrated? [akirby] by baggs32 Jan 16, 2009 (6:21 pm)
Replying to: akirby (Jan 15, 2009 11:09 am) And a bunch of reporters BEAT the epa estimates, getting as much as 52 mpg.   One of them being Motor Trend. They compared it directly to the Camry, Altima, and Malibu hybrids on the same days and in the same conditions. That is how you are supposed to conduct a comparison and Edmunds needs to follow up with this because they just compared apples to oranges in that article. The Fusion came out way ahead of all of them in the MT comparo BTW.   Edmunds seems to have arrived at unusually high numbers for the Camry in that article too. Be it the weather, the driver, or whatever, something seems terribly off balance with their results.

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