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13256 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM

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Re: Say it isn't so! [vanman1] by mz6greyghost
Jan 13, 2009 (5:03 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 12, 2009 6:56 pm)

Regardless, it's a poor system. I do know that because I did spend 4 days with the car.
 
It's an excellent system. I do know that because I OWN ONE.
 
I first thought the system was just a gimmick, but after over a year with it, it's actually very convenient, especially for my wife (the daily driver). She doesn't have to dig through her purse or other bags to find her keys, the few times she's left the fob in the car, it didn't allow her to lock the doors. Same when she left her purse in the trunk once, it didn't close.
 
"Poor" is having to call AAA or pay a tow driver $80 to unlock the door with the keys stuck inside. Trust me.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [backy] by madpistol
Jan 13, 2009 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 12, 2009 10:56 am)

question: which mid-sized sedans offer seat warmers, with cloth and with leather? I'd guess all of them with leather at least, but maybe some with cloth too (not as important though, IMO). Even some compacts now offer bun warmers with cloth and leather seating.
 
I believe that all midsize sedans now offer seat warmers as an option at least. Most of the time, if you get a car with leather seats, it comes with seat warmers.
 
I believe most cars, when equipped with seat warmers, come with 2-level seat warmers. However, I know the Camry only comes with 1-level (on/off) as opposed to low and high settings. There are probably a couple other cars that do the same thing.
 
I also agree with mz6 about the smart key system. It really is a great system, and I think you have to spend more than half a week with it to realize just how wonderful it is. It doesn't let you lock your keys in your car, and it's completely hands free (don't have to reach for keys.) I just don't see how it's a bad/flawed system. Even the push-button starter is convenient.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [elroy5] by jeffyscott
Jan 13, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 12, 2009 8:32 pm)

Wednesday it's supposed to get down to 32 degrees
 
Oh my, better get out the long johns and put a "toboggan" on your head. Really, heated seats in LA...I'd think you'd want seat coolers instead.
 
When the low is 32 or warmer, that's called spring here. According to the forcast we might get up to almost 32 one day in the next 10...
 
I discovered, when some relatives moved to AL, that people kind of have the same range of clothing but just different thresholds for wearing it. My HS age niece had told me of Alabamians wearing long underwear, heavy winter coats, and "toboggans" (as they say down there) when temp was in, I think, the 30s. Meanwhile when visiting Green Bay, which is 100 miles or so to the north of us, noticed shorts were pretty common when it was in the mid to high 60s.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [madpistol] by mickeyrom
Jan 13, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: madpistol (Jan 13, 2009 6:00 am)

My Optima has 4 seat warmer settings.I can't imagine just an on/off system.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [jeffyscott] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2009 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jan 13, 2009 6:10 am)

Here's how it goes (for me, in Birmingham).
 
Jeans/long pants come out when high are 60s.
Long sleeve shirts/sweaters come out when highs are in 50s, maybe a light jacket.
The heavy coats don't come out until lows hit the 30s. Long underwear in the 30s? Nah... maybe on a snowy day/night in the teens.
 
Seat heaters and coolers should use the Audi/VW design, I think, with a thumb wheel.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [thegraduate] by aviboy97
Jan 13, 2009 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2009 8:06 am)

Seat heaters and coolers should use the Audi/VW design, I think, with a thumb wheel.
 
I agree.
 
Mazda just adapted the thumb wheel for the CX-7 (cloth and leather) for 09. Yes, I know, not a mid-sized sedan, so, all who want to comment on that, just save it!
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Re: Say it isn't so! [thegraduate] by tlong
Jan 13, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 12, 2009 9:08 am)

With forecast lows this week as low as 8 degrees as far south as Birmingham, AL... I'm beginning to be glad I don't live any further north!!
 
Heat wave in So. Caliifornia today. It's supposed to get up to 80F!
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Re: Say it isn't so! [madpistol] by kirstie_h HOST
Jan 13, 2009 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: madpistol (Jan 13, 2009 6:00 am)

For me, this is a happy, happy development in the automotive world. My most important features in a vehicle list something like this:
 
1. Seat warmers
2. Automatic windows/locks
3. Steering wheel
4. Engine
 
You get the idea. That's the one feature that makes me consciously happy every day for about 4 months of the year.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [kirstie_h] by madpistol
Jan 13, 2009 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Jan 13, 2009 11:06 am)

You really appreciate it if your car sits outside during the winter. The last 2 weeks I've gotten up for school (college), my car has been covered in frost. I just go out, start the car, turn on seat warmers, windshield defroster, etc. and I go back inside for about 5 minutes. When I come back out, the seat is nice and warm and I can see out the windows in my car!
 
I will admit that I'm never going to be able to buy another car unless it has seat warmers now. It's the little things that make people happy.
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Wanted - Softer Suspensions by starryknight
Jan 13, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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I'd like to start another discussion regarding the suspensions in midsize cars. My beef is this.....in recent years, I've found there to be a growing lack of soft suspensions in midsized (and even a few larger) cars. I used to have a 2000 Ford Taurus and that car had a very nice, soft suspension. It soaked up bumps and handled potholes like a trooper and I had no handling issues. I traded it in for a 2007 Accord. What a difference! I knew the suspension was stiffer but thought I could get used to it but, after a year and a half, I'm looking to trade again. Just can't take it any longer. I feel EVERY small crack in the road and forget about potholes. When one of those babies comes along, it feels like the front end is being ripped out (you can't avoid them all). What ever happened to the nice, soft, cushy suspensions like what we could get 20-30 years ago. I understand the newer "sport tuned" suspensions make the car safer and more stable but really now. Family sedans are supposed to be comfortable. I, for one, would like those cars to go back to super soft suspensions and leave the stiff, sporty suspensions to the corvettes of the world. Let's discuss

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