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Re: Say it isn't so! [thegraduate] by madpistol
Jan 12, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 12, 2009 9:08 am)

With forecast lows this week as low as 8 degrees as far south as Birmingham, AL... I'm beginning to be glad I don't live any further north!!
 
I've been waking up to sub-freezing temperatures the last few days. I am sooo thankful for the best invention since cars were invented:
 
Seat warmers!!! Best thing ever on a cold morning!
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Re: Say it isn't so! [backy] by bhmr59
Jan 12, 2009 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 12, 2009 10:56 am)

'05 Sonata GLS Special Value edition has cloth seats and heated front seats.
 
In CT we don't have it as cold as MN or WS, but for me once it gets below 50*, it's time to turn on the heated seats. I only drive a little under 3 miles to work so the heated seats are a god send. Automatic climate control starts throwing some heat after about 1 miles, unless zero-like temps, but it takes longer for heated air to warm the cabin than it takes the seat to warm my body.
 
Where is all this man-made global warming? If it's not a hoax and if everyone warmed up their car for a half hour, that would have done a lot to moderate the last few winters. Maybe, just maybe, solar activity has something to do with global cooling or global warming. (The globe has actually cooled since 1998.)
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bhmr59] by backy
Jan 12, 2009 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jan 12, 2009 8:03 pm)

...but for me once it gets below 50*, it's time to turn on the heated seats.
 
I did that sometimes on my BMW, except I had to keep the settings low or it would actually get too hot when I was wearing shorts--which I sometimes do until it gets into the 20s.
 
Seat heaters in a cloth seat when it's just below 50? What is the world coming to...
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bhmr59] by elroy5
Jan 12, 2009 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jan 12, 2009 8:03 pm)

Wednesday it's supposed to get down to 32 degrees here in South Louisiana, so I might actually use the seat heater tomorrow, and Wed. It's nice to have, when you need it.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [vanman1] by mz6greyghost
Jan 13, 2009 (5:03 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 12, 2009 6:56 pm)

Regardless, it's a poor system. I do know that because I did spend 4 days with the car.
 
It's an excellent system. I do know that because I OWN ONE.
 
I first thought the system was just a gimmick, but after over a year with it, it's actually very convenient, especially for my wife (the daily driver). She doesn't have to dig through her purse or other bags to find her keys, the few times she's left the fob in the car, it didn't allow her to lock the doors. Same when she left her purse in the trunk once, it didn't close.
 
"Poor" is having to call AAA or pay a tow driver $80 to unlock the door with the keys stuck inside. Trust me.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [backy] by madpistol
Jan 13, 2009 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 12, 2009 10:56 am)

question: which mid-sized sedans offer seat warmers, with cloth and with leather? I'd guess all of them with leather at least, but maybe some with cloth too (not as important though, IMO). Even some compacts now offer bun warmers with cloth and leather seating.
 
I believe that all midsize sedans now offer seat warmers as an option at least. Most of the time, if you get a car with leather seats, it comes with seat warmers.
 
I believe most cars, when equipped with seat warmers, come with 2-level seat warmers. However, I know the Camry only comes with 1-level (on/off) as opposed to low and high settings. There are probably a couple other cars that do the same thing.
 
I also agree with mz6 about the smart key system. It really is a great system, and I think you have to spend more than half a week with it to realize just how wonderful it is. It doesn't let you lock your keys in your car, and it's completely hands free (don't have to reach for keys.) I just don't see how it's a bad/flawed system. Even the push-button starter is convenient.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [elroy5] by jeffyscott
Jan 13, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 12, 2009 8:32 pm)

Wednesday it's supposed to get down to 32 degrees
 
Oh my, better get out the long johns and put a "toboggan" on your head. Really, heated seats in LA...I'd think you'd want seat coolers instead.
 
When the low is 32 or warmer, that's called spring here. According to the forcast we might get up to almost 32 one day in the next 10...
 
I discovered, when some relatives moved to AL, that people kind of have the same range of clothing but just different thresholds for wearing it. My HS age niece had told me of Alabamians wearing long underwear, heavy winter coats, and "toboggans" (as they say down there) when temp was in, I think, the 30s. Meanwhile when visiting Green Bay, which is 100 miles or so to the north of us, noticed shorts were pretty common when it was in the mid to high 60s.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [madpistol] by mickeyrom
Jan 13, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: madpistol (Jan 13, 2009 6:00 am)

My Optima has 4 seat warmer settings.I can't imagine just an on/off system.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [jeffyscott] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2009 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jan 13, 2009 6:10 am)

Here's how it goes (for me, in Birmingham).
 
Jeans/long pants come out when high are 60s.
Long sleeve shirts/sweaters come out when highs are in 50s, maybe a light jacket.
The heavy coats don't come out until lows hit the 30s. Long underwear in the 30s? Nah... maybe on a snowy day/night in the teens.
 
Seat heaters and coolers should use the Audi/VW design, I think, with a thumb wheel.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [thegraduate] by aviboy97
Jan 13, 2009 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2009 8:06 am)

Seat heaters and coolers should use the Audi/VW design, I think, with a thumb wheel.
 
I agree.
 
Mazda just adapted the thumb wheel for the CX-7 (cloth and leather) for 09. Yes, I know, not a mid-sized sedan, so, all who want to comment on that, just save it!

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