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Midsize Sedans 2.0

13212 messages,  Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 7:27 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Say it isn't so! [gooddeal2] by thegraduate
Jan 11, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jan 11, 2009 1:52 pm)

Haha, well, I'm "he" who said 2.5S. I meant 2.5. It's hard to tell with her car since she has lots of aftermarket equipment (moonroof, leather, nav). I just distinctly remembered her car not having the intelligent entry/exit.
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Re: 2010 Toyota Camry [joe97] by backy
Jan 11, 2009 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 11, 2009 2:05 pm)

Pretty mild for a mid-gen refresh, compared to cars like the 2009 Sonata and the 2010 Fusion/Milan. At least the 2010 Camry joins most of the rest of the mid-sized sedans by offering ESC/traction as standard equipment, and the power increase on the I4 makes it more competitive with the rest of the class.
 
I thought the grille on the Venza was really ugly, but the new grille on the Camry doesn't look quite as bad. The front of the hybrid reminds me a lot of the previous-gen Accord.
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Re: 2010 Toyota Camry [backy] by baggs32
Jan 11, 2009 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 11, 2009 2:37 pm)

From the Toyota press release:
 
The Camry Hybrid, equipped with Toyota's industry-leading Hybrid Synergy Drive,
 
Hmm, industry leading in what way? I'm sure it leads the industry in something but to just say that it's industry leading in general is plain wrong now. And they're mad at Ford for saying the Fusion hybrid has the highest FE for a mid-sized car?
 
The IC doesn't look much different to me and might be even a little more boring to look at now. Hard to tell from the pics they have on their media site. The hybrid's lower fascia is just plain horrid IMO. The whole car has a rounded off theme to it and that lower fascia is stretched out to the wheels and squared off. Did Spongebob Squarepants help with that part of the design?
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by explorerx4
Jan 11, 2009 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2009 10:20 am)

you need to go back to some prior posts to in order to understand what i was saying.
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did this just start? by explorerx4
Jan 11, 2009 (4:04 pm)
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i have started seeing ads for the altima and camry having $1,500 rebates.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [thegraduate] by madpistol
Jan 11, 2009 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 11, 2009 2:05 pm)

The 2.5 is an "order only" model, so I really don't consider it part of the model lineup.
 
I think you're correct about the 2.5 model though. I'll have to double check Nissan's site to see about that though.
 
And, it's good to see Ford is implementing the smart key technology on the 2010 Fusion. They're really making a push to get back their lost market share aren't they?
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Re: did this just start? [explorerx4] by joe97
Jan 11, 2009 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 11, 2009 4:04 pm)

Toyota has had this for a while now; and Nissan just recently, I think.
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Re: did this just start? [joe97] by explorerx4
Jan 11, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 11, 2009 4:59 pm)

i thought maybe it was tied to all the 'buzz' about the fusion lately.
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I'm Getting Excited by berri
Jan 11, 2009 (5:47 pm)
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Looking at some of the new D3 metal they are showing off at the auto show, if this stuff can hold up better than in the past, maybe Detroit can pull off another close call save. It would be nice to shop for cars and have a bunch of them that you like rather than always having to revert to Toyota and Honda because you are afraid of D3 problems. I remember when I was younger it was kind of neat to shop a lot of different alternatives that you wouldn't mind owning.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [baggs32] by vanman1
Jan 11, 2009 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 11, 2009 10:57 am)

The smart keys are horrible. We rented an 09 Altima and almost locked our "smart key" in the car a couple of times. It's all pointless, keys work just fine.
 
I wouldn't buy an Altima if it had this period. That said, I wasn't all that impressed with the car. It had over sensitive brakes which drove me bananas.

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