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13211 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 10, 2009 4:37 pm) 1. The term "undersized" is a misnomer. Saying it has a little smaller cubic foot total than some other midsizers would be closer and even then that does not always equate to more comfort or feeling of spaciousness in a vehicle. 2. I'm sure one could find many cars smaller inside than the Fusion/Milan and that get less mpg. 3. A Corvette has less interior space....does that mean it should get better mpg? The 2010 Fusion looks like it will tie or beat many compact cars that certainly have less interior space. Maybe we should be complaining about those cars instead. 4. If you are so hung up on minute differences in interior space than maybe we should look at the percentage ratios of interior space vs. mpg to make our buying decisions. A little ridiculous don't you think?
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 10, 2009 6:30 pm) Hmmm... the Accord has less interior space and also lower fuel economy than the Sonata. Actually, the Accord EX trims have less interior space than the 2010 Fulan--and also lower fuel economy. Do you think most Americans would trade both interior space and fuel economy for... what, maybe lots of push buttons on the dash?  Actually, this FE/space tradeoff may be the other way around. Notice that Malibu sales are surging lately while Accord (and Camry) sales are plummeting. Could it be that buyers are gravitating towards the Malibu with its better fuel economy despite the fact it has less interior space than the Accord or Camry? |
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Replying to: m6user (Jan 10, 2009 7:44 pm)
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| If the inside of the new fusion is anything like the old one it will be an interior volume leader for me. I really think a lot of the who has more room debate is subjective and that the raw numbers can be deceiving. I am in an 03 Mazda 6 and have found it to be ample up front. With the extra leg room in the stretched Fusion is would be perfect. More importantly you can't beat the storage layout, the trunk, and the trunk pass through. The trunk pass through has to be the biggest hole on the market and keeps me from having to be a "sport wagon" type. | |
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 07, 2009 5:22 pm) i like not having to carry my keys with me when i leave the vehicle. drop the keys somewhere inside and retrieve them when you need them. if the kids need something out of the car, they know the combination and can get in to get it without the keys. Nissan has Ford trumped in this area. They have a system called "intelligent key" where you don't even have to take your keys out of your pocket. Instead of there being a keypad on the outside of the door, there's a single button that unlocks/locks that door and/or the other doors on the vehicle if the key fob is within about 3 feet of the vehicle. In fact, the '07 Camry and '09 Mazda6 have adopted the same technology. However, it isn't standard on the Camry or 6, but it is standard on the Altima. In terms of technology, Ford has Sync going for it. It's a great technology, and hopefully it'll trickle down to other car companies shortly. Most other car companies have started to adopt the "intelligent key" system, so expect that to be a standard feature on most mid to high end cars soon. Nearly all the luxury brands have had this technology for several years now (Lexus, Acura, Infiniti, BMW, etc.) I applaud Nissan for bringing it to mainstream AND making it standard equipment on the Altima. Ford's keypad entry system is dated now. 
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Replying to: madpistol (Jan 11, 2009 8:22 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 11, 2009 8:43 am) You do if you want to start the car and go anywhere. Interesting sideline: intelligent keys that stay in the pocket also make carjacking more difficult. You get out of the car, the "key" goes with you. Carjacker gets 50 feet and the engine cuts off, bwa ha ha! 
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Replying to: madpistol (Jan 11, 2009 8:22 am) The 2010 Taurus now has this, and the new second gen door touchpad (no visible buttons like the old one) so expect it to make it into other mainstream Ford vehicles very soon. Like you said, those "intelligent keys" have been around in luxury marques for quite some time so it's not like Nissan has done anything ground breaking here like Sync or developing their own hybrid technology. All they did was bring a convenience feature to the mainstream and they weren't even the first to do it. You're forgetting that with the exterior keypad you can do things like go out in the garage, or street, and start your vehicle then lock it and go back in the house while it warms up. You can't do that with the "intelligent key" systems IIRC. It unlocks the doors if you try to close them while the keys are in the vehicle right? I live in a pretty darn safe neighborhood where locking the doors of a running, unattended vehicle isn't really necessary. But there are kids around and I wouldn't put it past one of them to hop in and start playing with things as kids like to do. Therefore, I go out and start it, hop out, close the door, hit 7/8 and 9/0 at the same time, and the doors are locked and I'm reassured that the vehicle is safe and warming up for me and the family.
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2009 10:20 am) Then realizes what just happened, gets out, runs 50 ft back to you, beats you down (or worse), grabs the "intelligent key" out of your pocked while you're lying on the ground, runs 50 ft back to your car, and drives away. Sounds great to me!
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Replying to: madpistol (Jan 11, 2009 8:22 am) Not so standard; the only Altimas equipped with the Smart Entry system allow you to push the button on the door-handle. My friend has a new 2009 Altima 2.5S, which she has to push lock/unlock on the fob. It does have keyless start, however. |
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