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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [elroy5] by backy
Jan 10, 2009 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 10, 2009 4:37 pm)

Per your logic, because the Accord is smaller inside than the Sonata, Accord should get higher fuel economy. But it doesn't.
 
You just don't want to give Ford credit for anything, do you?
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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [backy] by bpizzuti
Jan 10, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 10, 2009 4:50 pm)

You just don't want to give Ford credit for anything, do you?
 
It's kind of illustrative of the problems the Detroit 3 face. They've made junk for so long, and have left such a bad taste in the mouths of so many customers, many DO refuse to give them credit for anything.
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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [backy] by elroy5
Jan 10, 2009 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 10, 2009 4:50 pm)

I think there are some things more important than 2mpg. I think most Americans will trade that 2mpg, for more interior space. Heck most of them would probably trade that for better cupholders. Not a big advantage, IMO. But then I chose a V6 model, so gas mileage is not a top priority of mine.
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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [elroy5] by explorerx4
Jan 10, 2009 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 10, 2009 6:30 pm)

one of the reasons i bought a fusion is that i am over six feet and can fit in the back seat.
there is enough head room and plenty leg room for me.
another feature i was looking for was awd and i was willing to give up some mpg to get it.
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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [elroy5] by m6user
Jan 10, 2009 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 10, 2009 4:37 pm)

The Fusion/Milan being undersized is not the point. The point is, it is smaller, so it should get better mileage than an Accord or 6. If you are giving up interior space, shouldn't you be rewarded, with better mileage?
 
1. The term "undersized" is a misnomer. Saying it has a little smaller cubic foot total than some other midsizers would be closer and even then that does not always equate to more comfort or feeling of spaciousness in a vehicle.
2. I'm sure one could find many cars smaller inside than the Fusion/Milan and that get less mpg.
3. A Corvette has less interior space....does that mean it should get better mpg? The 2010 Fusion looks like it will tie or beat many compact cars that certainly have less interior space. Maybe we should be complaining about those cars instead.
4. If you are so hung up on minute differences in interior space than maybe we should look at the percentage ratios of interior space vs. mpg to make our buying decisions. A little ridiculous don't you think?
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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [elroy5] by backy
Jan 10, 2009 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 10, 2009 6:30 pm)

I think most Americans will trade that 2mpg, for more interior space.
 
Hmmm... the Accord has less interior space and also lower fuel economy than the Sonata. Actually, the Accord EX trims have less interior space than the 2010 Fulan--and also lower fuel economy. Do you think most Americans would trade both interior space and fuel economy for... what, maybe lots of push buttons on the dash?
 
Actually, this FE/space tradeoff may be the other way around. Notice that Malibu sales are surging lately while Accord (and Camry) sales are plummeting. Could it be that buyers are gravitating towards the Malibu with its better fuel economy despite the fact it has less interior space than the Accord or Camry?
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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [m6user] by bhmr59
Jan 10, 2009 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Jan 10, 2009 7:44 pm)

You're not trying to tell us that a Corvette is a mid-size sedan are you?
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Interior Space by milkman1
Jan 11, 2009 (4:53 am)
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If the inside of the new fusion is anything like the old one it will be an interior volume leader for me. I really think a lot of the who has more room debate is subjective and that the raw numbers can be deceiving. I am in an 03 Mazda 6 and have found it to be ample up front. With the extra leg room in the stretched Fusion is would be perfect. More importantly you can't beat the storage layout, the trunk, and the trunk pass through. The trunk pass through has to be the biggest hole on the market and keeps me from having to be a "sport wagon" type.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [explorerx4] by madpistol
Jan 11, 2009 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 07, 2009 5:22 pm)

i am a ford guy and i really like one feature they have that none of the others do, the keypad entry.
i like not having to carry my keys with me when i leave the vehicle.
drop the keys somewhere inside and retrieve them when you need them.
if the kids need something out of the car, they know the combination and can get in to get it without the keys.

 
Nissan has Ford trumped in this area. They have a system called "intelligent key" where you don't even have to take your keys out of your pocket. Instead of there being a keypad on the outside of the door, there's a single button that unlocks/locks that door and/or the other doors on the vehicle if the key fob is within about 3 feet of the vehicle.
 
In fact, the '07 Camry and '09 Mazda6 have adopted the same technology. However, it isn't standard on the Camry or 6, but it is standard on the Altima.
 
In terms of technology, Ford has Sync going for it. It's a great technology, and hopefully it'll trickle down to other car companies shortly. Most other car companies have started to adopt the "intelligent key" system, so expect that to be a standard feature on most mid to high end cars soon. Nearly all the luxury brands have had this technology for several years now (Lexus, Acura, Infiniti, BMW, etc.) I applaud Nissan for bringing it to mainstream AND making it standard equipment on the Altima.
 
Ford's keypad entry system is dated now.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [madpistol] by explorerx4
Jan 11, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: madpistol (Jan 11, 2009 8:22 am)

i guess you missed my point. with the keypad, which nissan also used to have, you don't have to carry anything; no key, no fob, or whatever.

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